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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 23:08:08 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <d8ddf638f2cdaa304ad9920471f4dd294f5e904b@i2pn2.org> References: <vv97ft$3fg66$1@dont-email.me> <vvgr22$1ag3a$2@dont-email.me> <vvgt36$1auqp$2@dont-email.me> <vvgtbe$1b0li$1@dont-email.me> <vvguot$1auqp$3@dont-email.me> <vvh0t2$1b939$1@dont-email.me> <vvhap5$1hp80$1@dont-email.me> <vvhf20$1ihs9$1@dont-email.me> <vvhfnd$1hvei$3@dont-email.me> <vvil99$1ugd5$1@dont-email.me> <vvinvp$1vglb$1@dont-email.me> <vviv75$222r6$1@dont-email.me> <vvj1fp$22a62$1@dont-email.me> <vvj2j6$23gk7$1@dont-email.me> <as9TP.251456$lZjd.93653@fx05.ams4> <87msbmeo3b.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vvjcge$27753$2@dont-email.me> <87a57mek8r.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vvjgh7$28g5i$4@dont-email.me> <87seled0zy.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vvjobj$28g5i$11@dont-email.me> <87zffmbeyt.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vvm1ih$33907$1@dont-email.me> <vvm6ku$34h6f$2@dont-email.me> <f843cd85133177b7ab5e33c46ca7352f4f50e851@i2pn2.org> <vvm846$34mm4$3@dont-email.me> <fe53b01c25165237b6537ea7efd9d3b39593352e@i2pn2.org> <vvmeh2$3a34p$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 03:22:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3887009"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vvmeh2$3a34p$2@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4339 Lines: 62 On 5/9/25 10:43 PM, olcott wrote: > On 5/9/2025 9:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/9/25 8:54 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 5/9/2025 7:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 5/9/25 8:29 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>>> On 10/05/2025 00:02, olcott wrote: >>>>>> Correctly emulating one or more instructions <is> >>>>>> the correct emulation of 1 or more instructions >>>>>> of DD. This is a truism. >>>>> >>>>> No, it's not. Correct emulation would entail accurately simulating >>>>> the whole of DDD's behaviour. >>>>> >>>> This is just typical Olcottian behavior, Actual definitons don't >>>> matter to him, which is what makes so much of what he says just turn >>>> out to be lies when they are interpreted (as they must be) with the >>>> actual definitions. >>> >>> _DDD() >>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>> [00002183] c3 ret >>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>> >>> Try to show how DDD simulated by HHH according to the >>> rules of the x86 language reaches its own "ret" >>> instruction final state and you already know that >>> you will fail. You dodge this question so that >>> you can remain disagreeable. >> >> The problem is that HHH can not emulate this input past the call >> 000015d2 instruction, > > Do I have to repeat this 1000 times !!! > HHH is in the same memory space as DDD > HHH is in the same memory space as DDD > HHH is in the same memory space as DDD > HHH is in the same memory space as DDD > HHH is in the same memory space as DDD > > so when DDD calls HHH(DDD) then HHH must > emulate itself emulating DDD OR IT IS WRONG > > Which is irrelevent since it wasn't part of the input. I guess you are admitting you lied when you said that HHH must be a pure function, and thus my HHH that uses the static local variable is valid, and it CAN correctly emulate EVERY instruciton of the program DDD to the emd. Sorry, you are just checkmating your self and proving that you are just a stupid liar. Your whole logic system seems to be build on lies, equivocations, and the assumption of contradictions.