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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 18:50:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:50:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Giant millipede Newsgroups: sci.bio.paleontology References: <dr-cnXc0bf5iTo76nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <dr-cnXc0bf5iTo76nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <dGGdnf2EJtT2Yo76nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 28 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-KyrWCH7ZOf2lEHobIw1OfWWcvW+OqtwMF1jbvscdlOMKkQzy+uIupAWVEx3lGczFRnwCRnufwGUhsDP!vpoWQTGJJw4xY+OQ/szEeDdZ9C20S9VAr6EzfgMt2yrhmjb4wJH7H5Bc/nn6AchX0Z14PMY1MI4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2542 On 10/19/24 8:45 AM, erik simpson wrote: > Here's and account of a nini-foot millipede that would keep you inside > if you saw it in your yard. > > https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adp6362 > > Abstract > The Carboniferous myriapod Arthropleura is the largest arthropod of all > time, but its fossils are usually incomplete, limiting the understanding > of its anatomy, ecology, and relationships. Micro–computed tomography > applied to exceptionally preserved specimens from the Carboniferous > Montceau-les-Mines Lagerstätte (France) reveals unprecedented details of > its functional anatomy, such as the head and mouthparts. Arthropleura > shares features with both millipedes and centipedes. Total-evidence > phylogeny combining morphological and transcriptomic data resolves > Arthropleura alone as a stem group millipede, but the inclusion of the > highly incomplete Siluro-Devonian Eoarthropleura draws it deeper into > the myriapod stem. Arthropleura suggests transitional morphology between > clades united primarily by molecular information and underscores the > value of total-evidence phylogenetics to understanding evolutionary > history. Pharyngula had a recent post on the subject: https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/?s=arthropleura A couple of museums I've been to have lifesized models; they're going to have to fix the heads.