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Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see...
 predict correctly
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On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote:
> On 7/30/2024 6:45 PM, Mad Hamish wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:13:55 -0500, olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >=20
> > > On 7/30/2024 4:07 PM, joes wrote:
> > > > Am Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:05:54 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> > > > > On 7/30/2024 1:48 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> > > > > > Op 30.jul.2024 om 17:14 schreef olcott:
> > > > > > > On 7/30/2024 9:51 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> > > > > > > > Op 30.jul.2024 om 16:21 schreef olcott:
> > > > > > > > > On 7/30/2024 1:52 AM, Mikko wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 2024-07-29 14:07:53 +0000, olcott said:
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > HHH(Infinite_Recursion) and HHH(DDD) show the same no=
n-halting
> > > > > > > > > > > behavior pattern in their derived execution traces of=
 their
> > > > > > > > > > > inputs.
> > > > > > > > > > Hard to believe as their behaviour is so different and =
you don't
> > > > > > > > > > say what pattern the see.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > *Its all in the part that you erased*
> > > >=20
> > > > > > > > We all see the differences between these two.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > They both correctly predict behavior that must be aborted to =
prevent
> > > > > > > the infinite execution of the simulating halt decider.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Except that the prediction for the second one is wrong. The sim=
ulation
> > > > > > of an aborting and halting function, like HHH, does not need to=
 be
> > > > > > aborted.
> > > > > I proved otherwise. When the abort code is commented out then it =
keeps
> > > > > repeating again and again, thus conclusively proving that is must=
 be
> > > > > aborted or HHH never halts.
> > > > But the abort is not commented out in the running code!
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I modified the original code by commenting out
> > > the abort and it does endlessly repeat just like
> > > HHH correctly predicted.
> >=20
> > Which means that it works in some cases, not all cases
> > Which means it doesn't work universally
> >=20
> > So it's not a general solution to the halting problem
>=20
> It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting problem.
> it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined
> to be non halting.
>=20

But how do you determine it is non-halting?

As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!!

int main()
{
  H(D,D);
}

Above is the last 'explain' of POOH. It does not reply anything!!! How is i=
t a decider?
The HP asks a TM to reply the y/n answer, not from your mouth.