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From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com>
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Subject: Re: power shortages
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 14:56:47 -0800
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On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 23:17:19 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2024-03-08 21:06, john larkin wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 19:56:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2024-03-08 16:01, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 10:40:26 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>>>>>>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
>>>>>>>> the dark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants.
>>>>>>> They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse
>>>>>> design? Big installations that need ten years to build?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of
>>>>>> small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds,
>>>>>> Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported
>>>>>> where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Already in development!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#/
>>>>
>>>> It's really not a technical problem. The public has an irrational fear
>>>> of radiation.
>>>
>>> Gosh, it is a very rational fear.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> Stay away from mountains and airplanes and your own cellar. Don't ever
>> eat bananas or potatoes.
>> 
>> 
>
>I don't. I love flying and mountains. Not a problem. I also eat potatoes 
>frequently.

The number of cancers caused by non-Russian reactors is about zero.

Coal power plants emit maybe 10x the radiation per KWH compared to
nukes. Plus a lot of other nasty stuff.

What's shocking is that cigarettes are legal. They kill about half a
million peope in the US every year. A deal was cut to keep them legal,
with the states and feds getting a lot of tax revenue to kill people.