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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: The Old vs The New
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:43:30 -0500
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:07:46 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 11/18/2024 1:25 AM, shawn wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:25:13 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:17:36 -0500, shawn
>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ideally, in my opinion,  Hamas would be gone and the Palestinian
>>>> people would be allowed to control their own fate but that doesn't
>>>> seem likely to happen in my lifetime, if ever. Israel is just helping
>>>> to win more people over to Hamas by their killing of innocent
>>>> civilians in an attempt to wipe out Hamas leaders. Which just means
>>>> the fighting will likely keep going on and on and on.
>>>
>>> Given HAMAS routinely uses 'innocent civilians' as human shields if
>>> the Israeli soldier spots the HAMAS guy with a weapon he's going to
>>> shoot first and ask questions later.
>>>
>>> At best, that's going to mean a wounded civilian - which is just going
>>> to mean the HAMAS fighter is going to grab yetanother "shield" next
>>> time  he sees an Israeli.
>>>
>>> While I agree with you on your point about winning more people over,
>>> what's their option besides surrendering to HAMAS?
>> 
>> I don't know that they have one. At least not a good one. With a few
>> million people to hide among even preventing Hamas from launching the
>> occasional rocket attack is going to be impossible.
>> 
>> Though I wonder if they treated the Gazan residents better if they
>> could have won over their support for Israel at getting rid of Hamas.
>> I'm not sure it could work now but at least making sure Gaza is
>> getting food/water/medical supplies would limit the # of people who
>> might support Hamas.
>
>Hamas is the group that is "appropriating" the food/water/medicine sent 
>to Gaza.

I know but Israel has also been limiting the support available. If
they didn't there would be more food/water/medicine coming in than
Hamas could take control of. There's no lack of supplies available if
only it were easy to get them into Gaza.