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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:26:11 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Valve Says No Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 11:26:09 -0500 Message-ID: <dmtmqjhe03440p1kcs9nmhr6k8poemid3r@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 53 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-2C1+VA4fezOGSxQOfU0SmtPkLeX5vIuQKI2vwqNF/IlKYwCljTRU7jb+CR6gZyR6rIWiArVae1k3BAt!+2UqLWaVl5AiQz2gK6tUlWsKPY/0GdNL0Bnv4fjXL0bV1apmoaL/87eisMEksScosaIZKyNe X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3406 There are a lot of things I don't like about Valve and Steam. Their worrying dominance over the marketplace. Their intentional (and self-profiting) blindness to the gambling on their platform. The mess that is their marketplace, with thousands of valueless asset-flip scam games crowding out 'real' games. That god-damned auto-patching and not being able to play games on deprecated computers. But for all that, I still think that Valve remains the /best/ company to curate the PC marketplace. (This actually says more about its competitors though). And their recent announcement putting the foot down against ad-supported products is one reason why.* Basically, Valve said: No. Not on Steam. If your product depends on showing customers adverts in order to make money, sell it somewhere else. Or change the product to a 'single-purchase paid-app' or use MTX or other upgrades to bring in revenue. But don't sell a game that keeps slipping adverts into the experience and expect to sell it (or distribute it, since many of those sorts of games are typically given away for free) on our Steam platform." Now, technically this isn't new policy --as Valve is quick to point out, this actually was implemented five years ago-- but Valve is making this restriction much more clear and is apparently being more pro-active in enforcing it. Which, I think, is welcome news to pretty much every PC gamer, who looks at the offerings on Apple's App Store and Google's Play Store and shudders with disgust. It's not the sort of thing we want infecting our games, and kudos to Valve for taking the stand against it. Admittedly, it is a stand they can only make because they have such overwhelming control of PC gaming, and because they're already raking in so much cash that they can ignore the additional profits allowing such games would allow, but still, I take these victories where I can get them. Epic has made no comments on whether it intends to follow suit.** ================== * details here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/advertising ** actually, it's quite possible that Epic has a similar policy and I didn't bother to check (or ask them); I just like poking fun at the Epic Game Store. Anyway, they're fine with NFT games (which Valve has also disallowed) so I wouldn't be surprised if they're equally okay with ad-supported games too.