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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <dof1g-GR_KtjWEGgnz5v5Z9MeFQ@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: The most ridiculous science mistake in history. References: <1qqxctr.cx8smcpwxnigN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1926fd4d8c8841583c903a8e308f6fab@www.novabbs.com> <l77afkFf5g6U1@mid.individual.net> <321e5265d8de0bce57ba3d670f4fe968@www.novabbs.com> <PiGr-g3dkpLep8CvZQhYLYjH_zU@jntp> <3517ce074d282ba0402c34c1289277e8@www.novabbs.com> <PFCsU6HxkpVQyKN-LwHpRFqyhuo@jntp> <bcb49d02c32e25cfbf045d957378f3be@www.novabbs.com> <iNb3BWr2umKIKnzAaZZrQWIaMCg@jntp> <uurfgq$8j5r$1@i2pn2.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: ZoY8eiRwMxwebKU4qCjAOsawrlE JNTP-ThreadID: eadae7722aa4042797d8a9dd39fac8b4@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=dof1g-GR_KtjWEGgnz5v5Z9MeFQ@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 09 Apr 24 14:26:26 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/123.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-04-09T14:26:26Z/8810989"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> Bytes: 3700 Lines: 49 Le 06/04/2024 à 14:34, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit : > >> >> Explain to me why the apparent speed of the earth when it returns is >> Vapp=4c. > > I suppose you mean what the speed of the Earth will appear to > be for the traveller on his return trip. > > The only way the traveller can measure this speed is by observing > the Doppler shift of the sunlight reflected from the Earth. > (Balmer etc., you know) > >> Yes, that's exactly what I mean. When Stella has just finished her U-turn, we imagine that she has made a large arc of a circle still at the same speed of 0.8c (tangential speed) she then prepares to rush towards the earth for the return. The speed being 0.8c, as on the outward journey, she sees the earth coming back towards her with an apparent speed of 4c. And this throughout his return (otherwise you will admit that it is absurd). No matter how you measure this speed (telescope, beeps, Doppler effects, etc.), you will always have Vo=0.8c, Vr=4/3c and Vapp=4c. What I would like you to understand is that all of this is immensely coherent, when it is ME who explains it, and no one else, but that for reasons which are not scientific, the “physicists” refuse to listen to me. I have been begging them for years to listen to me, and to affirm like me "that the effects of physics are perfectly reciprocal by permutation of frame of reference". Just as Terrence SEES the rocket three times longer, Stella SEES the distance to be covered three times greater, and not 12 ly, but 36 ly. It's this enormous, masterful, brilliant slap given by Doctor Hachel that physicists cannot understand. They therefore conclude that Doctor Hachel is the moron. They are incapable of understanding, and it is by braying like a donkey that they have before their eyes one of the most beautiful understandings of the theory of relativity ever given, and not this filthy bullshit of an absolutely abstract and ridiculous Minkowski block. R.H.