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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:55:09 +0200
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On 2025-06-13 18:43, VanguardLH wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Gelato wrote:
>>
>>> The EU replaceable battery rules go into effect February 18, 2027.
>>> https://prodlaw.eu/2025/02/eu-battery-regulation-removability-and-
>>> replaceability-requirements-explained/
>>
>> Which probably means most phones on the EU/UK market around Autumn 2026
>> will have replaceable batteries, and the remnants of the fixed-battery
>> stock will get shipped to Africa shortly afterwards ...
> 
> Just because the EU comes up with regulations, and then assigns councils
> or committees to establish guidelines, doesn't mean the rest of the
> world has to comply.  There are already differences in manufacturer
> regarding whether a phone is for US or global.  Nothing the EU mandates
> is enforceable elsewhere, so phone makers could make phones with
> replaceable batteries to distribute in the EU, and continue making and
> distributing phones elsewhere with non-removable batteries.  The EU is
> just 5.6% of the world's population.  No one else has to comply.
> 
> Manufacturers often streamline their production by making a product the
> same no matter where it gets distributed, but there can be differences
> based on region.  I've seen assembly lines where the head of the line
> makes everything the same, but the line splits up to produce variations.

It is possible.

> Has the USA, India, Japan, or anywhere else asserted they will implement
> regulations to the EU regarding replaceable batteries?  The EU enforces
> their rules against importer and retailers, because those are within
> their jurisdiction.  They can't force the phone makers to do anything,
> because the phone makers are not in the EU.
> 
> Because batteries are chemical, so they wane in capacity and eventually
> die (or are so low on recharge to be nearly unusable), and because smart
> phone makers are only required to supply batteries for 5 years for a
> particular phone, they would just change the physical layout for
> batteries in new models.  You couldn't use a common battery across all
> models, or even outside a particular model, but have to buy their
> proprietary configuration.  Keep moving the target, and the target is
> gone after 5 years.
> 
> I'd take replaceable batteries over water resistence in a heartbeat.
> Swapping out a spare full charged battery in a few seconds sure beats
> having to wait for a full charge taking hours.

I like waterproof, even if it is for a limited time and depth. 
Rainwater, accidental fall to a pail... I lost one phone because I took 
a swim and forgot. I noticed instantly, but it was already too late. 
Salty water, too.

....

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.