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From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com>
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Subject: Re: Do you condemn Hamas?
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 17:42:09 -0700
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:25:36 -0400, "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>"john larkin" <jl@650pot.com> wrote in message news:7b176jdajq3co9nosj8qnie8rupdrsfoav@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 18:02:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>> "Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in message news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because they are
>>>>>>>> heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed martyrs. So for
>>>>>>>> Hamas, killing is always win-win.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor hell.
>>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing.
>>>>>>> There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature of
>>>>>> consciousness, you can't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to
>>>>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else would
>>>>>> morality and justice come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings about proper
>>>>>> behavior to others. Obviously, there are different religions with,
>>>>>> possibly, genetic components.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than atheists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Better cooks too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like
>>>>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that
>>>>> many people never get over it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality!
>>>>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual benefit.
>>>>> Religion never even comes into it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've
>>>>> seen quite a few who were real bastards.
>>>>
>>>> That's pretty much my experience too.
>>>
>>>
>>>Come to New England you'll meet a different cut of conservative, who has
>>>no need for God or the Bible to explain why they think women shouldn't
>>>vote or homosexuals should be hung. "I just don't like the fuckers."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have lots of relatives in Mass and have spent many months of my life
>> in NYC and Vermont
>
>Would I be correct in thinking that you've never been outside the USA except perhaps for a short vacation?


I have spend a few months in France and a month working in Moscow.
Some weeks working in England, in Oxford, and a few weeks vacatining
in Ireland. Some time in Hamamatsu.

I guess Alaska and Hawaii don't count.

I have never encountered the sort of nastiness that other people seem
to have. Most people are friendly and decent.