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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Most significant advance in bike technology for speed?
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 11:44:32 +0700
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On Sun, 02 Feb 2025 21:04:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Mon Jan 27 11:03:35 2025 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>> On 1/24/2025 10:00 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > On 1/24/2025 5:10 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to point out that integrated brake/shifter designs also 
>> >> enhanced safety, eliminating the need to move the hands from a 
>> >> position of control on the bars (Even bar-end shifters required moving 
>> >> your hand to a position with less control).
>> > 
>> > Yes, I suppose in a furious pack sprint that could be an issue.
>> 
>> It's an issue in general. I remember cases long ago on a steep climb 
>> when a rider would have to reach down for a down tube shift and nearly 
>> fall over.
>> 
>> > 
>> > Those of us who remember the "new bike vs. 1980s bike" comparison road 
>> > test, with young racers riding up a mountain, may recall that some of 
>> > the young guys said it was scary to take their hands off the lever to 
>> > shift.
>> > 
>> > Ah well. I've taken off both jackets and rain capes while riding. I even 
>> > drink from a water bottle while riding! But I'm not racing.
>> 
>> And some people never quite got the hang of being able to shift without 
>> looking down at the lever lol....
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>In my experience, hardly anyone could shift without looking down to move their hands to the shift levers accurately. This was happening in the heat of racing and you couldn't afford to miss a shift. And it was only a glance.

 Eddy Merckx raced with shifters and supposedly someone asked him if
he ever missed a shift and he replied "I haven't missed a shift since
I was 12 years old".

-- 
Cheers,

John B.