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Subject: Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:56:59 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:07:39 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 8/29/2024 2:17 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-08-28 12:08:06 +0000, olcott said:
>>> On 8/28/2024 2:39 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-08-27 12:44:31 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>> On 8/27/2024 3:38 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 27.aug.2024 om 04:33 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>> This is intended to be a stand-alone post that does not reference
>>>>>>> anything else mentioned in any other posts.
>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping [00002173]
>>>>>>> 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping [00002175] 6872210000 push
>>>>>>> 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call
>>>>>>> HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04 [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we assume that:
>>>>>>> (a) HHH is an x86 emulator that is in the same memory space as
>>>>>>> DDD. (b) HHH emulates DDD according to the semantics of the x86
>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>> then we can see that DDD emulated by HHH cannot possibly get past
>>>>>>> its own machine address 0000217a.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, we see. In fact DDD is not needed at all.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>>>> You should also point a link to the equivocation fallacy. You use it
>>>> more often than straw man.
>>> Isomorphism is not equivocation
>> The use of HHH for many purposes (a specific program, an unpsecified
>> memeber of a set of programs, a hypothetical program) is.
>> Your first posting looked like you were going to apply equivocation
>> later in the discussion. Now, after several later messages, it seems
>> that you want to apply the fallacy of "moving the goal posts" instead.
>> 
> HHH correctly predicts what the behavior of DDD would be if this HHH
> never aborted its emulation of DDD.
Problem is, DDD is then not calling itself, but the non-input of a
not-aborting HHH.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.