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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers
 (extra-ordinary)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:08:48 -0500
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On 12/14/24 3:53 AM, WM wrote:
> On 14.12.2024 09:41, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-11-19 11:04:08 +0000, WM said:
>>
>>> On 19.11.2024 10:32, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-18 14:29:40 +0000, WM said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18.11.2024 10:58, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-11-17 12:46:29 +0000, WM said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are 100 intervals for each natural number.
>>>>>>> This can be proven by bijecting J'(100n) and J(n). My intervals 
>>>>>>> are then exhausted, yours are not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very relevant.
>>>>
>>>> It is not relevant if no relevancy is shown.
>>>
>>> But if relevancy is only deleted, it can show up again:
>>>
>>> Every finite translation of any finite subset of intervals J(n) 
>>> maintains the relative covering 1/5. If the infinite set has the 
>>> relative covering 1 (or more), then you claim that the sequence 1/5, 
>>> 1/5, 1/5, ... has limit 1 (or more).
>>
>> There is a bijection between your J and my J', where
>> J'(n) = (n/100 - 1/10, n/100 + 1/10): for each n there
>> is one interval J(n) and one interval of J'(n). Whateever
>> you infer from that is either an invalid inference or
>> a true conclusion.
>>
> Please refer to the simplest example I gave you on 2024-11-27:
> The possibility of a bijection between the sets ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...} and D 
> = {10n | n ∈ ℕ} is contradicted because for every interval (0, n] the 
> relative covering is not more than 1/10, and there are no further 
> numbers 10n beyond all natural numbers n. The sequence 1/10, 1/10, 
> 1/10, ... has limit 1/10.
> 
> Regards, WM
> 

Except that we aren't dealng with the FINITE sets of {1, 2, 3, ..., n} 
but for the full set of { 1, 2, 3, ... }

All you are proving is that you don't understand that infinity isn't 
finite, and that you logic is basdd on LIES.