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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:56:12 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <e21febc3602fe07d39ab0ed6edb071668cccc4d1@i2pn2.org> References: <vqrbtd$1chb7$2@solani.org> <vqrn89$u9t$1@news.muc.de> <vqrp47$2gl70$1@dont-email.me> <vqrtn3$1uq5$1@news.muc.de> <vqs1og$2k7oh$2@dont-email.me> <vqsh1r$2cnf$1@news.muc.de> <vqsoq5$2p6pb$1@dont-email.me> <vqsuf0$2g64$1@news.muc.de> <vqucdi$36bb4$1@dont-email.me> <vqukqm$19g3$1@news.muc.de> <vqv0gq$3eapu$1@dont-email.me> <vqv62q$18mn$2@news.muc.de> <vr169k$18k4i$1@dont-email.me> <vr1bav$p45$1@news.muc.de> <vr1e8i$1er2v$1@dont-email.me> <vr1hig$5qt$1@news.muc.de> <vr29g3$23fi7$3@dont-email.me> <vr2d3k$jli$1@news.muc.de> <vr3fbu$1gbs1$3@solani.org> <3ac6ad6b1a88e70e573c2481f536acd6401cfb21@i2pn2.org> <vr4b3e$3qbce$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:56:12 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="277972"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2799 Lines: 29 Am Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:49:49 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 15.03.2025 12:32, joes wrote: >> Am Sat, 15 Mar 2025 09:56:31 +0100 schrieb WM: >>> On 15.03.2025 00:11, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> wrote: >>> >>>>> ℕ_def contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not >>>>> result in the empty set. >>>> What does "which" refer to? >>> It refers to the numbers. An Englishman should comprehend that. >> It could also have referred to the set. But in this case, N_def=N. > ℕ_def contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not > result in the empty set. For every number in N, if you subtract that number, a nonempty set remains. Of course, if you subtract all of them, nothing does. > ℕ contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does result in > the empty set. No element of N, subtracted from N, leaves the empty set (because N contains more than one element). >>>> To N_def or to a member of the "all numbers"? >>> That is one and the same. >> No. N_def is not a number. > ℕ_def contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not > result in the empty set. Yes, N_def is a set. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.