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From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen)
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Subject: Re: Relativism Killer
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2025 20:36:50 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 11:02:58 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

> Den 11.07.2025 08:06, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
>> "Relativism Killer: The Collapse of Conceptual Relativity at the
>> Speed Limit"
>> Rub´en Yruretagoyena Conde
>
> Why do you not give a link to the paper?
>
> https://vixra.org/pdf/2507.0037v1.pdf
>> "Abstract
>> This article introduces a conceptual function named relativism killer(),
>> which demonstrates how the framework of relativity ceases to hold
>> coherence once a fundamental maximum is defined. We explore the
>> paradoxical boundary where relativistic logic collapses under its own
>> limit: the speed of light. At this precise threshold, the relative
>> becomes absolute, and the structure of reference frames disintegrates.
>> We introduce the concept of an ontological observer the definitional
>> entity, which reveals why the condition x = 1 terminates relativity.
>> This argument serves both as a philosophical reflection and as a
>> structural clarification of Einstein’s prediction, stripped of
>> assumptions and exposed as a necessary geometrical condition. It also
>> supports post relativistic models such as the Hijolum´ınic Theory."
>
>
> Have you read the paper?
>
> Quote of the first statement in the Introduction:
> "Relativity, as introduced by Einstein, is based on the notion
>   that measurements of space and time are relative to the motion
>   of observers."
>
> Do I have to explain why this is nonsense?
> I do? OK:
>
> A correct, but trivial statement would be:
> "Physics is based on the notion that measurements of space
>   and time are relative to the observer."
>
> The measurements made by an observer are obviously relative
> to himself. The speed of an object measured by the observer
> is relative to the observer.
> To say:
> "The speed of an object measured by the observer is relative
>   to the motion of the observer."
> is a meaningless statement. Which "motion"?
>
> The author is very confused about what "relativity" is,
> and when the very first statement in the paper is meaningless,
> the rest is bound to be nonsense.
>
> Another quote:
> "5. Philosophical Reflection: The Death of the Observer
>    The observer, within relativity, is always external.
>    But at the speed of light, there is no outside.
>    The act of observation merges with the act of being.
>    Thus, relativism killer(1) does not just signify a broken
>    formula, but a shift in ontological perspective I dare to say.
>    It is where duality ends, and unity begins."
>
> I will leave to you to figure out why this is nonsense.
>
No one thinks the speed of a bullet or wave changes because they move
relative to it. What did Einstein think?