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From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:49:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 07:47:36 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:01:30 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
>>(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>>
>>>Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>... Los Angles has a perfectly competent fire department, 
>>>> which did all that was humanly possible. Sadly, they can't do anything
>>>> about anthropogenic global warming
>>>
>>>Part of the problem was too many trees and other plants close together -
>>>I don't notice anyone campaigning about that.
>>>
>>>Trees don't destroy CO2, they simply store it and release it later,
>>>either as CO2 or as methane.
>>
>>Things that grow in California must get harvested or will burn. It's
>>been that way for millenia; the natives warned the Spanish about that.
>>When people put out small fires, as we have done for over a century
>>now, we add to the fuel load for giant firestorms. Blame Smokey The
>>Bear.
>>
>>Not only are unnaturally dense forests great fuel, houses are even
>>better. That was obvious in the Oakland and Paradise and Lahaina
>>fires; rows of houses set one another on fire and the trees survived.
>>
>>Pics show forests in California that are six times denser than they
>>were naturally, a century ago.
>>
>>And why do people build insanely flammible houses, right next to other
>>insanely flammible houses? Our cabin in the mountains won't burn,
>>because it would be very hard to ignite, and because we keep the
>>landscape free of stuff that would burn a lot.
>>
>>Let the insurance free market work.
>
>Quite. Be very intersting to see how Pacific Pallisades and its
>neighbouring suburbs look in a few years' time from now. I suspect the
>area will be far less verdant!

This is also a perfect opportunity to update the local building code
to make the houses et al far less flammable.  The typical Mexican
construction (masonry building with tile roofs) is pretty good, and
adding measures against wind-driven embers getting inside plus drench
pipes fed by a gasoline-powered pump drawing on the swimming pool will
make survival of wildfires the norm.

Most likely, this new code will be imposed by the insurance companies
over the objections of the State of California.

What's left is to allow controlled burns to clear the underbrush, just
as the local Indian tribes have done for millennia.  This policy
change must come from the State.

The same thing applies to Smoky the Bear.


>Here's another uncomfortable fact for our Democrat supporters to chew
>on: seems the worst fire was started by an illegal immigrant from
>Mexico with a blowlamp and the 'Kenneth' fire was - again - set by
>another illegal alien. We're constantly told these people enrich our
>culture, but that's hard to swallow when you take a look at all those
>square miles of ruins and ashes.

This search for the guilty is a mug's game.  Under Santa Ana Wind
conditions, there will always be multiple ignition sources, most being
natural.

Joe Gwinn