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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 18:23:20 +0000
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 16:59:11 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:36:18 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:43:26 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:03:34 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> General-Zod wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Faraway Star wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I Met A Girl
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I met a girl
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> she came from California.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> It was in a dream
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> we knew each other instantly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> She was a little freckled girl
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> from out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> my high school past.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> We talked
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a really detached situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> She said years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I was so shy
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> she thought I was gay.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> At this point I kissed her
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and put my finger to her hole.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I have forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I don't know why it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> that I would think of her.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I made a couple of puns
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> about her name that made me blush.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> But her softness in tone
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> made me feel all right.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> All I want to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> is get in contact.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> -Will Dockery / May 8 1982
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The official version of this poem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Yes, that matters.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On y second read of this today, it captures that touch of Bukowski but
>>>>>>>>>>>> is fully a Doc story... superb...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back, Zod.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thank... good to be back...!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great new art, by the way:
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/hth2PQb
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/BJgjm9m
>
>
>>>>> As I've pointed out earlier, the poem is in the
>>>>>> Erotic poetry genre, and the characters are influenced by Beatnik and
>>>>>> 1980s new wave and punk rock zeitgeist of those e

See below:

https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j

>>>>>> The poetry is a snapshot from 1982, very different times which you
>>>>>> apparently missed, Pendragon.

Again ^^^

>>>>> Admittedly
>
>>>>>> objectifying, insensitive

It was a poem based on a dream in 1982.

Those were different times.

>>>>>> Not at all, it's a very accurate depiction of a rock and roll romance
>>>>>> circa early 1980s

See below:

https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j

>>>>>> I know because I was there, I lived it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you

(False accusations snipped)

>>>> No, it was all consensual, read the poem.

Again ^^^

>>> You do not say that it is consensual in the poem

It's a poem, not every detail is included in a poem.

>> It was very clear it was consensual in the poem.

Again ^^^

>> For example, the girl didn't slap me or yell at me or anything.
>
> That's another classic quote

Just saying she was enjoying my company, obviously.

If  she wasn't enjoying my company she could have easily walked away.

> Of course she didn't slap you, yell, or otherwise resist --

Because we were just talking and having a nice time, if she didn't want
to be with me she could just leave.

> stoned out of her freakin' mind.

Again, it was a poem about a dream and in both she was very lucid

> Just because you weren't the one who slipped a roofie in her drink,


That's definitely just another figment of your delusional imagination,
Pendragon.

> doesn't mean that you had any right to take advantage of her when in
> that state.

For starters, it's a poem about a dream.

I didn't see any drugs in the dream.

> And don't try playing innocent about it.

Play innocent?

I was absolutely innocent of any of these accusations you've making.

You mention, *twice* in your
> poem that she looked up at you and "talked real spacey."

She came from California, talking real spacey like one of those Valley
Girls:

https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j

I have to go make coffee now, I'll return soon to complete my response
to your critique.

Thanks again for reading and commenting.

😏