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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ... Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:07:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <e63e61ae993532b337032a3ecb7b3c059b501437@i2pn2.org> References: <ve39pb$24k00$1@dont-email.me> <ve8289$336c8$1@dont-email.me> <ve91hf$1ab4$1@news.muc.de> <7959253e834d2861b27ab7b3881619c2017e199f.camel@gmail.com> <ve9ju2$3ar6j$1@dont-email.me> <a965e0f825570212334deda4a92cd7489c33c687@i2pn2.org> <vea0mi$3cg0k$2@dont-email.me> <a4d0f7ff8798ce118247147d7d0385028ae44168@i2pn2.org> <veb557$3lbkf$2@dont-email.me> <2e6d8fc76e4e70decca1df44f49b338e61cc557e@i2pn2.org> <vebchp$3m87o$1@dont-email.me> <1071eb58637e27c9b2b99052ddb14701a147d23a@i2pn2.org> <vebeu2$3mp5v$1@dont-email.me> <58fef4e221da8d8bc3c274b9ee4d6b7b5dd82990@i2pn2.org> <vebmta$3nqde$1@dont-email.me> <99541b6e95dc30204bf49057f8f4c4496fbcc3db@i2pn2.org> <vedb3s$3g3a$1@dont-email.me> <vedibm$4891$2@dont-email.me> <72315c1456c399b2121b3fffe90b933be73e39b6@i2pn2.org> <vee6s1$7l0f$1@dont-email.me> <1180775691cf24be4a082676bc531877147202e3@i2pn2.org> <veec23$8jnq$1@dont-email.me> <ee549a6d463ca0eb1e74b42cb16759d577d8861f@i2pn2.org> <veei7b$8jnq$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:07:06 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1680996"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 5780 Lines: 73 Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:21:14 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 10/12/2024 2:00 PM, joes wrote: >> Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:36:03 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 10/12/2024 12:13 PM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 11:07:29 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 10/12/2024 9:43 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 10/12/24 6:17 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/12/2024 3:13 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 21:13:18 +0000, joes said: >>>>>>>>> Am Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:22:50 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 12:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 11:06 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 9:54 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 10:26 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 8:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 8:19 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 6:04 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2024 8:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 6:19 PM, olcott wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the behavior of DDD emulated by HHH is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure then: Vide. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since it isn't, your whole argument falls apart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah a breakthrough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And an admission that you are just working on a lie. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you are unaware of how valid deductive inference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can disagree that the premise to my reasoning is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By changing my premise as the basis of your rebuttal you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the strawman error. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, how do you get from the DEFINITION of Halting being a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior of the actual machine, to something that can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talked about by a PARTIAL emulation with a different final >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My whole point in this thread is that it is incorrect for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to say that my reasoning is invalid on the basis that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not agree with one of my premises. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue isn't that your premise is "incorrect", but it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> INVALID, >>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is based on the redefinition of fundamental words. >>>>>>>>>>>> Premises cannot be invalid. >>>>>>>>>>> Of course they can be invalid, >>>>>>> It is a type mismatch error. Premises cannot be invalid. >>>>>> So "af;kldsanflksadhtfawieohfnapio" is a valid premise? >>>>> "valid" is a term-of-the-art of deductive logical inference. When >>>>> the subject is deductive logical inference one cannot substitute the >>>>> common meaning for the term-of-the-art meaning. >>>>> This is a fallacy of equivocation error. >>>> So "af;kldsanflksadhtfawieohfnapio" is an invalid premise? >>> "invalid" referring to a premise within the terms-of-the-art of >>> deductive logical inference is a type mismatch error use of the term. >>> One could correctly say that a premise is untrue because it is >>> gibberish. One can never correctly say that a premise is invalid >>> within the terms-of-the-art. >> Back to the topic: your premise that the measure of the behaviour of >> DDD is the emulation of it done by HHH is wrong. > I didn't say it exactly that way. Richard thinks that the way you say it > makes a difference. I don't take the time to pay any attention to any > other way to say it than the way that I did say it. See above. You should pay attention if it didn't make a difference. > The only one here besides me that seems to understand the actual > software engineering aspects of this is Mike. > Everyone else here seems to have no deeper understanding than > learn-by-rote from CS textbook. I wonder what difference you see in him? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.