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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: Poets of Revolt aka Free-Versers / Strange Bedfellows Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 12:02:16 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <e670b4ca838a6c8e8395c64763ce43a4@www.novabbs.com> References: <86511c65-f2a1-4aa3-a739-ec489a9a9a9e@googlegroups.com> <81ea4290-9bf7-406a-92fe-2fc3ad5a14bf@googlegroups.com> <cc0a7e9c-26fc-405f-bb7f-5530b33845b0n@googlegroups.com> <93ffda143636b709e60be1da887fd33a@news.novabbs.com> <a513eb54a9a35dc2bceea3448eb5d129@news.novabbs.com> <b988f44409d79f692b2941275e9c6908@news.novabbs.com> <de8de5f209e4b8723fc276d761dbe761@news.novabbs.com> <e5f6aae82d9b4a4e1c40eb4a13a871e3@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1397100"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Vf9CM7g99yqfGvzEHTw0bhrjcIfvzYBBhUuRma0rLuQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: acd0b3e3614eaa6f47211734e4cbca3bfd42bebc X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$TsUYlB3IzxTAaiPIkVCmiOPo63ulG5flhUQ54V332/Xr9tFsM0H6. Bytes: 3649 Lines: 65 General-Zod wrote: > Will Dockery wrote: >>>> Zod wrote: >>>>> Will Dockery wrote: > >>>>>> Okay, again, eight years ago was when I was reading and reading about >>>>>> Mina Loy: > >>>>>>> Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern >>>>>>> Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems >>>>>>> to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off >>>>>>> around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be >>>>>>> traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" >>>>>>> aka "Free Versers". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this >>>>>>> group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is >>>>>>> [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the >>>>>>> writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, >>>>>>> because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed >>>>>>> stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Ezra Pound called it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and >>>>>>> beyond... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp >>>>>>> and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under >>>>>>> the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the >>>>>>> Free-Versers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Poets loosely associated with these groups included: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Richard Aldington >>>>>>> Amy Lowell >>>>>>> Vachel Lindsay >>>>>>> Harry Kemp >>>>>>> Donald Evans >>>>>>> Allen Norton >>>>>>> Louise Norton >>>>>>> H.D. >>>>>>> Mina Loy >>>>>>> William Carlos Williams >>>>>>> Alfred Kreymborg >>>>>>> Ezra Pound >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay." > >>>>>> HTH and HAND. > >>> Interesting history piece... > > >> It even got trolls like Pendragon interested. > > > Pen seems to have left us...? He's back now as "Harry Lime"... But YOU are gone. 😏