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Path: ...!news.misty.com!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:27:00 -0400 Organization: What are you looking for? Lines: 84 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <e7dc0j15gtfjh1nirb403pjkfj44pi22jg@4ax.com> References: <5vl2vilpidbokkqrd0v635aoudh42ql3u2@4ax.com> <fa08vitrlk8u0dicb4lvi3e0044k8512rf@4ax.com> <u9ggvidt961thu41tjhdva8vfrnkcqg843@4ax.com> <0jenvil40oto62hmdksnpgj5ab3m2c0a6a@4ax.com> <utk2sf$2v41o$1@dont-email.me> <utmqdc$3mj1b$1@dont-email.me> <rG-dnS4OVYXz-2L4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <utqb3n$knkh$1@dont-email.me> <utunog$1s3en$2@dont-email.me> <uu4792$3m771$1@dont-email.me> <l6lmbrFpebtU1@mid.individual.net> <3121664b-b1b3-484b-be92-ec3e50c8c52c@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="75781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:k6IB0kQTHQ2/73oGrvzTlhOpJ4k= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 985FC22976C; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:23:20 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDC0229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:23:18 -0400 (EDT) id 1FDB65DD0C; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 001795DCC9 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:27:05 +0000 (UTC) id 6C269DC01A9; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 04:27:01 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:27:01 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19wAIfIqhc6Jofvv4QaNqcGz6xB43PvfZU= Bytes: 5672 On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 10:15:41 -0700, erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote: >On 3/28/24 10:06 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: >> On 2024-03-28 16:52:50 +0000, Mark Isaak said: >>=20 >>> On 3/26/24 10:29 AM, Ron Dean wrote: >>>> Mark Isaak wrote: >>>>> On 3/25/24 10:26 AM, Ron Dean wrote: >>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/23/24 4:31 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote: >>>>>>>> Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Mark Isaak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [snip >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And what about people for whom theism is their greatest=20 >>>>>>>>>> motivator, such >>>>>>>>>> as Obama bin Laden? Cynicism seems a rational response. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that Obama bin Laden is typical of Islam? If= so, >>>>>>>>> you're probably right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My apologies to Mark as I just Chez Watted this without = realizing=20 >>>>>>>> Mark had >>>>>>>> originally posted Osama bin Laden and in Ron Dean=E2=80=99s = reply Mark=E2=80=99s=20 >>>>>>>> spelling >>>>>>>> morphed to Obama bin Laden matching Ron Dean=E2=80=99s spelling.= I wonder=20 >>>>>>>> what that >>>>>>>> indicates about Ron Dean=E2=80=A6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even without the typo, Ron's reply shows that he is grossly=20 >>>>>>> bigoted against Arabs and Moslems. The typo suggests that Blacks=20 >>>>>>> and Democrats may be added to the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Here you are so unfair.=C2=A0 It's easy to make accusations and = charges=20 >>>>>> without even attempting to support them. This in and of itself=20 >>>>>> demonstrates your extreme bias and hatred of anyone with a >>>>>> point of view, opinion or belief different from yours. >>>>> >>>>> The support for your bigotry against Moslems is in your own post,=20 >>>>> and that bigotry in turn is support for a suggestion of further=20 >>>>> bigotry. I must admit that I had not considered the intervention of= =20 >>>>> a spell-checker. I have never known a spell-checker, uninvited, to=20 >>>>> alter text that the user did not type himself. >>>>> >>>> I asked a question. "Are you suggesting that Osama bin Laden is=20 >>>> typical of Islam? If so (if you confirmed) you are probably right".=20 >>>> If you failed. I placed the burden on you! (Note here I defeated my=20 >>>> spell-checker) >>> >>> Do you honestly not recognize the overt bigotry in what you just=20 >>> repeated? It is really extremely gross and unforgivable. >>=20 >> All the Muslims that I know (all highly educated women, at the moment)= =20 >> are perfectly decent people. All of them would be very insulted to be=20 >> described as typical of Osama Ben Laden. None of them wear veils. A = few=20 >> years ago there was a student who did wear a veil, but that was only = in=20 >> her second when her husband came to join the institute. In her first=20 >> year she didn't, and was perfectly happy to have her photo taken (by = me)=20 >> for a seminar series that my wife was organizing. She likewise had=20 >> nothing in common with Osama Ben Laden. >>=20 >It seems to me that Ron D has been getting an undue amount of attention=20 >for some time. He obviously has a problem with reading not only what=20 >others have written, but also in reading what he has written himself. We= =20 >are all getting bogged down with this unending drizzle. Such is the consequence of willful stupidity. -- To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge