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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The People Versus John Oliver: The Murky Ethics Of Modern Comedy Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2025 13:00:28 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <e7lavjtbapael4ecv6oepusdsk8bfc7vht@4ax.com> References: <vt31vr$23bvq$4@dont-email.me> <vt3jsm$2kcep$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2025 19:00:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e6882cca79e33503e3c192f4ed54fa57"; logging-data="2820454"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18xh4eZ+k3o0vpVfK6IEtowMUNV3JQtdjk=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:A2cFe4AYcss5wXK62td25zk65I4= Bytes: 4244 On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 16:46:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >On Apr 8, 2025 at 1:30:43 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: > >> Late-Night TV may never be the same. >> >> HBO’s John Oliver, host of LAST WEEK TONIGHT, is facing a new defamation >> lawsuit from health care executive Dr. Brian Morley who claims the comedian >> slurred him for ratings and profits. >> >> In an April 2024 telecast, Oliver played an alleged audio clip of Morley at >> an administrative hearing saying, "People have bowel movements every day >> where they don't completely clean themselves and we don't fuss over [them] >> too much. People are allowed to be dirty ... You know, I would allow him to >> be >> a little dirty for a couple of days." >> >> Oliver's immediate on-air response: "F*** that doctor with a rusty canoe! I >> hope he gets tetanus of the balls." >> >> Morley's lawyer claims the recording was altered by the program. >> >> Suing comedians for telling the wrong jokes seems an uphill legal battle at >> best. The 1st Amendment allows for plenty of creative embellishments, >> although Oliver's comments proved highly specific and potentially damaging to >> >> the doctor's reputation. > >No shit. Altering a recording and presenting it as authentic-- if that's >really what happened-- goes way beyond comedic license. It's pretty much >textbook defamation. Which is why I would say it is almost certain it didn't happen. At least not by Oliver or his people. Not knowing where the recording came from I suppose it is possible some third party altered it before Oliver and crew got it. Oliver has had plenty of practice with these lawsuits so I'm certain they wouldn't do something that is so clearly against the law. >> The courts will have the final say on the matter. >> >> Should Dr. Morley emerge victorious it could have a much larger impact. Yes, >> LAST WEEK TONIGHT, would take a sizable hit, but consider the big picture. >> >> What if other satirical comics have to watch what they say moving forward? > >They won't have to watch what they say. As long as they don't manufacture fake >recordings and pretend they're real, they'll be just fine. > snip >> Take Bill Burr, who insinuated Kyle Rittenhouse was a White Supremacist >> during his Netflix special "Bill Burr Presents: Friends Who Kill". >> >> Rittenhouse shot three people, killing two and injuring one during a 2020 >> fracas tied to the BLM protests. A court of law found him innocent, agreeing >> with his self-defense explanation. Elements of the press and the Left >> insisted his actions were racist, even though his victims were white and they >> >> couldn't pin any racially-charged comments to the young man. > >That's still the most bizarre aspect of that whole case: a white guy shoots >two other white guys and the black grievance brigade starts screaming >"raaaaciiism!!" > >Come again? > I think it's more of why he traveled across state lines to supposedly protect a business. That he ended up shooting some white guys doesn't get around the fact that he was there to supposedly protect the business from BLM protestors.