Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Can a Machine become =?UTF-8?B?c2VsZi1hd2FyZT8=?=
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:59:48 +0000
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Message-ID: <e9095d92235e18a5dfe73d953b6a9bc4@www.novabbs.org>
References: <684DCF74.4FB4@ix.netcom.com> <102lr61$r0o8$1@solani.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;
	logging-data="576900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org";
	posting-account="8Ljlg8xw5cAHatvjdHGGjEHKUx9ddlqxMwQzk4UFm4k";
User-Agent: Rocksolid Light
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
X-Rslight-Posting-User: d6bc49351b0faa08a25d2b434d815198335a8b45
X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$sXWslkg5oKK.nIltvnOLJurR8U5Aehpywld8N.QdxAhbNO1Vrf2LW

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 7:02:20 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

>>Can a Machine become self-aware?
>
>  Of course,
>
> Imagine a sun screen with a light sensor that closes if it gets too
> bright
>  10 dollar experiment
> Now add a voice: computer (or tape player if you want!!) that says
> if it is light:
>  "Too bright I ma closing'
> if it gets darker:
>  "Too dark, I am opening"
>
> 100 dollar experiment.
>
> The 'I think so I am' thing is antique
> That setup I described has reflexes like your eye has.
> And it has a voice (if that part is active) to describe what it 'feels'
> (experiences).
> If the voice part is not active.. it is 'unconscious'
> but even if we are unconscious our heart and breathing continues.
> Like that light sensor still opening and closing the sun screen.
> Two separate parts of our 'circuit'.
> I have programmed a lot of that sort of stuff, voice alarms here for
> radiation and dangerous gasses, better than just a beep.
> What not...
> Just a few lines of code on a Raspberry Pi little computer.
> And it logs to memory too.
> 'memory' did I mention that?
>
> Get rid of all the mystery junk about consciousness.
> We (life forms) are just a chemical reaction
> bit higher organized collection of cells..

Can chemical reactions, sensors, tape recorders, computers etc. invent a
brand new rowing method that could have been invented 10000 years ago?

Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

What fools these godless apes be!

Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)

--