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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Sufficient knowledge of C proves that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:59:49 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <e927b5c876314add491c7e50071156e92ef307e7@i2pn2.org> References: <vnumf8$24cq0$1@dont-email.me> <vo2us8$32kg8$1@dont-email.me> <228a9804d6919149bac728ccf08134ed90db121e@i2pn2.org> <vo3cf0$35449$1@dont-email.me> <6f15178eda69b13fae9cbfef29acad05c9c6aeb3@i2pn2.org> <vo3t3n$37kcg$1@dont-email.me> <1454e934b709b66a0cb9de9e9796cb46fed0425c@i2pn2.org> <vo5c8c$3ipo2$2@dont-email.me> <f7f9c03f97de054f6393139c74f595f68400ede5@i2pn2.org> <vo6b14$3o0uo$1@dont-email.me> <274abb70abec9d461ac3eb34c0980b7421f5fabd@i2pn2.org> <vo6rhd$3tsq7$1@dont-email.me> <vo79pq$8vq$2@dont-email.me> <vo7qqb$36ra$2@dont-email.me> <vo8jr6$7fbd$2@dont-email.me> <vo9gth$fuct$2@dont-email.me> <vo9o3h$gu6t$2@dont-email.me> <voah0r$m3dj$6@dont-email.me> <voambu$ng5r$2@dont-email.me> <voamvc$nv62$1@dont-email.me> <voatki$p4au$2@dont-email.me> <voau7d$p4sc$2@dont-email.me> <voavuf$p4au$4@dont-email.me> <vob15v$ptj9$1@dont-email.me> <vocd0e$14a92$1@dont-email.me> <vocp7p$16c4e$2@dont-email.me> <vocqjl$16qj7$1@dont-email.me> <vocrbl$16uuv$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:59:49 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3557886"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4523 Lines: 51 Am Mon, 10 Feb 2025 06:27:33 -0600 schrieb olcott: > On 2/10/2025 6:14 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 10.feb.2025 om 12:51 schreef olcott: >>> On 2/10/2025 2:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 09.feb.2025 om 20:54 schreef olcott: >>>>> On 2/9/2025 1:33 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>> Op 09.feb.2025 om 20:04 schreef olcott: >>>>>>> On 2/9/2025 12:54 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>> Op 09.feb.2025 om 18:00 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2025 10:50 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Op 09.feb.2025 om 16:18 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2025 2:13 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 09.feb.2025 om 07:10 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2025 3:54 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 08.feb.2025 om 15:47 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2025 3:57 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 08.feb.2025 om 06:53 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2025 7:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/25 8:12 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2025 5:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/25 11:26 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2025 6:20 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/25 10:02 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/2025 8:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/25 5:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/2025 1:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/25 1:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/2025 10:52 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2025 um 16:11 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/5/2025 1:44 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2025 um 04:38 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>> It is a verified fact that main cannot possibly be correctly >>>>>>> simulated by HHH until its normal termination. >>>>>> Indeed, which proves that HHH is unable to simulate itself >>>>>> correctly. >>>>> If this was true then you could point out exactly where HHH is >>>>> incorrect. Line 502. >>>> It is true as a verified fact and has been pointed out to Olcott many >>>> times, but he refuses to learn. So, again: >>>> It is a verified fact that main halts, >>> It is a verified fact that the input to HHH(main) cannot possibly >>> terminate normally. >> No, the verified fact is that the input can terminatie normally > The directly executed main IS NOT THE INPUT TO HHH. It’s not? What if it were? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.