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Subject: Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity.
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 19:28:37 +0000
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 8:26:26 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000020, 20.02.2025 um 22:44 schrieb Richard Hachel:
>> Le 20/02/2025 à 22:31, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>>> So you prefer to believe that your derivation that
>>> photons are not affected by gravity is correct,
>>> and that GR's predictions thus are proven wrong.
>>>
>>> So you must be ignorant of the fact that photons are observed
>>> to be deflected by gravity exactly as predicted by GR.
>>>
>>> Because you would not claim that "photons cannot be affected
>>> by gravity" if you knew that they are.
>>>
>>> Or would you? :-D
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> What is the evidence that photons are deflected by the presence of
>> matter in space?
>
> The photons are not affected, but space itself is.
>
> The idea of GR was, that gravity is actually an effect of 'curvature',
> which is itself caused by gravity.
>
> What gets curved is actually the 'axis of time' local to a certain part
> of space.
>
> What we call 'space' has a certain (geometric) relation to the axis of
> time, if we regard the axis of time as imaginary and the axes of space
> as real.
>
> Then we have i as a factor, by which time gets multiplied and what gives
> us three real axes of space.
>
> This space is therefore depending on the direction of time.
>
> Curvature of the axis of time is actually an acceleration in a
> space-time diagram, which usually has one axis of time and only one of
> type space.
>
> Now this can 'curve' and we get gravity, which is a force, that results
> from such curvature.
>
> Now light ('photons') pass through such a distorted space upon force
> free straight lines, which are actually curved in spacetime in presence
> of a gravitational field.
>
> This pass is NOT curved by gravitation, but by curvature of space.
>
>
> ....
>
>
> TH
Curving the (imaginary) axis of time cannot curve real space since space
is not a surface.