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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Correctly rejected as non-halting V2 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 17:18:35 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <e9c73a7efa3e1ac218379bf0ef742ea8c4af2313@i2pn2.org> References: <v6rg65$32o1o$3@dont-email.me> <v6sdlu$382g0$1@dont-email.me> <v6td3a$3ge79$1@dont-email.me> <v6tp1j$3imib$2@dont-email.me> <v6trdu$3irhh$1@dont-email.me> <v6tu01$3imib$11@dont-email.me> <a177dd76613794d6bb877c65ffe6c587a8f31bc1@i2pn2.org> <v6tvpv$3imib$14@dont-email.me> <091e8b7baeea467ee894b1c79c8943cb9773adb7@i2pn2.org> <v6u346$3khl8$1@dont-email.me> <16ac79611a441e7e01119631051f69119eee958a@i2pn2.org> <v6v06i$3pivt$1@dont-email.me> <23cb2d2401b87bf4f6a604aa1a78b93ffc9a29bc@i2pn2.org> <v6v2t1$3pmjn$3@dont-email.me> <3fc6548531f91ed14a27420caf9679a634573ed0@i2pn2.org> <v70lmo$61d8$1@dont-email.me> <8a6e6d9ff49aabe2525ce5729a439c807de4768a@i2pn2.org> <v71qj3$bvm2$2@dont-email.me> <3d124d535f6d59565df213fa58242ee156ee96bb@i2pn2.org> <v7349r$mjis$1@dont-email.me> <v756vv$15rrp$1@dont-email.me> <v7658i$1b4io$1@dont-email.me> <v77pf4$1nn5l$1@dont-email.me> <v78fd7$1rc43$3@dont-email.me> <v78hbf$1rnr3$2@dont-email.me> <v78hp8$1rc43$11@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 17:18:35 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3619015"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3272 Lines: 33 Am Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:43:04 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/17/2024 8:35 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 17.jul.2024 om 15:02 schreef olcott: >>> On 7/17/2024 1:48 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-07-16 15:57:04 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>> The trace does not show that HHH returns so there is no basis to >>>>>> think that HHH is a decider. >>>>> The trace shows the data of the executed program of HHH that does >>>>> halt. >>>> It shows some of the data, not all, and in particular, not the >>>> halting. >>> DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantic meaning of its x86 >>> instructions never stop running unless aborted. Bla bla. >> You have shown that you do not understand the semantics of the x86 >> language. >> HHH does abort and halt after N cycles, > That is counter-factual Then HHH is not a decider. > When we examine the infinite set of every HHH/DDD pair such that: > HHH1 One step of DDD is correctly emulated by HHH HHH2 Two steps of > DDD are correctly emulated by HHH HHH3 Three steps of DDD are correctly > emulated by HHH ... > HHH∞ The emulation of DDD by HHH never stops > > DDD emulated by any pure function HHH according to the semantic meaning > of its x86 instructions never stops running unless aborted. DDD only calls HHH, which, being a decider, halts. -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.