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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: key error in all the proofs --- Correction of Fred Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 16:47:45 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <e9c7ddb8dc4b4b03399d064d634f11297501e49d@i2pn2.org> References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v9dgvl$3d1an$1@dont-email.me> <d289636b1d244acaf00108f46df093a9fd5aa27c@i2pn2.org> <v9dk2j$3dp9h$1@dont-email.me> <8318f5969aa3074e542747fe6ba2916d7f599bde@i2pn2.org> <TyKdnc3hCNvmUyf7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v9ekta$3necg$1@dont-email.me> <2f8c1b0943d03743fe9894937092bc2832e0a029@i2pn2.org> <v9fn50$3ta4u$2@dont-email.me> <v9hmfc$c71c$1@dont-email.me> <v9ic89$f16v$6@dont-email.me> <06ea0f3a1ff938643b3dfefdf62af15559593733@i2pn2.org> <v9iqgc$go4j$2@dont-email.me> <LcucnRYb5ZiYhyD7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v9j6ci$jo32$1@dont-email.me> <v9kdp9$srkm$1@dont-email.me> <v9ku3k$v95g$1@dont-email.me> <v9nbqr$1dmui$1@dont-email.me> <v9nf3o$1dvef$3@dont-email.me> <v9nkhd$1ertd$1@dont-email.me> <v9nmj5$1f34m$1@dont-email.me> <6590517a070695b81751db1b64c3d26019ee9b13@i2pn2.org> <v9nog5$1fe76$1@dont-email.me> <34a22fd138e2e1e41a4dd29cd6c9016064e2343c@i2pn2.org> <v9npus$1flup$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 16:47:45 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2749386"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3249 Lines: 31 Am Fri, 16 Aug 2024 10:07:08 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 8/16/2024 9:59 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Fri, 16 Aug 2024 09:42:13 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 8/16/2024 9:28 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 8/16/24 10:09 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 8/16/2024 8:34 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-08-16 12:02:00 +0000, olcott said: >> >>>>> Unless an unlimited emulation of DDD by HHH can reach the "return" >>>>> instruction of DDD it is construed that this instance of DDD never >>>>> halts. >>>> But that also construes that HHH is a program that DOES an unlimited >>>> emulation of DDD, and thus isn't a decider >>> Not at all. never has. >> Yes, because DDD is defined to call its simulator. If you change the >> simulator to abort, you also change the simulated HHH. Nobody cares >> about HHH aborting a pure simulator. >>> HHH must predict what the behavior of an unlimited simulation would >>> be. >> The HHH that aborts must predict what DDD calling an aborting HHH does > NOT AT ALL, NEVER HAS. > PREDICT WHAT THE BEHAVIOR WOULD BE > IF IT WAS AN UNLIMITED EMULATION Yes, an unlimited simulation of an aborting HHH. This simulation does not need to be aborted, because the simulated HHH halts. >> halting. It's fine if it aborts, as long as it gives the correct >> result. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.