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From: "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net>
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:44:42 -0500
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On 2/8/25 2:27 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 08/02/2025 17:59, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/02/2025 07:36, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> IMHO, a lot of this is just "busy work" from
>>>>    people looking for something to do. Their
>>>>    idea of "better" means "better for ME - and
>>>>    screw YOU". It's not better for the average,
>>>>    or even professional, user.
>>>
>>> In my careers - I have had several - us Engineers were humble 
>>> creatures who wrote clean workmanlike well documented and tested code 
>>> in the hope that no one would ever have to write it again, and if 
>>> they did, it would be instantly understandable. Code was. to quote my 
>>> friend 'Higgy',  'all just bits, in silicon'.
>>>
>>> Later I encountered computer scientists who spoke a strange language 
>>> with artistic terms in it like 'elegance' 'intellectual purity' 
>>> 'algorithmic efficiency'  'Turing complete' 'object oriented' and 
>>> other words that seemed to have nothing whatever to do with actually 
>>> writing testing and debugging clean code that met the spec and worked 
>>> in a timescale less than eternity...
>>>
>>> I decided they were all frustrated ArtStudents™ with Physics envy who 
>>> could not  do HardSums™
>>
>> Haha, brilliant!
>>
>>> And should never be let anywhere near a critical project.
>>
>> I am fascinated by the fact that when it comes to programming, there 
>> can be an enormous disconnect between academic programmers, and a guy 
>> in his room who just pounded out the code and got the work done.
>>
>> I'm not saying he did it in the most "elegant" way or the best 
>> documented way, but I do claim that in many instances, the guy without 
>> the official training is able to do it.
>>
>> Reminds me of when I went to university. I often had to help the A 
>> students with their practical assignments, and I got it done. On the 
>> theory part however, they were always the A students.
> 
> There is computer science, and there is software engineering.
> Textbooks on software engineering are worth reading

   "Computer science" can be interesting - although
   not very accessible to those with sub-Turing IQ.

   But "software engineering" is really Where It's At.