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The Doctor wrote:
> In article <qr-cnSEfiOYZ2An7nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>,
> %  <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <v718ta$9ece$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor  <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <v70jsq$5ldd$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor  <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <xn0oob78bgz8k3z006@post.eweka.nl>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the first past the post system that they use in the UK,
>>>>>>>> Britain is basically a two-party country government wise. When
>>>>>>>> the British public get sick of Labour, the Conservatives will
>>>>>>>> return to government... and vice-versa. I doubt I will ever see
>>>>>>>> a [majority] Liberal Party UK government in my lifetime.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I never thought Liberals would go beyond 50 seats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the UK ever uses our system of voting (PR) then that would be
>>>>>>>> different... you'd have more hung parliaments and coalitions and
>>>>>>>> then the LibDems would be more significant..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WEll the referendum on PR did say no PR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We never held a referendum on PR. We held a referendum on AV which
>>>>>> basically results mostly in a “second past the post” victory in
>>>> most of our
>>>>>> constituencies. Proponents of PR are … not keen on AV.
>> Imagine the last
>>>>>> election on that basis - Reform voters STILL wouldn’t have
>> gained more than
>>>>>> a handful of seats but the Tories would gain a lot back when
>> Reform’s
>>>>>> second choices proved to be almost all pro Tory. AV still massively biases
>>>>>> towards two parties in each seat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AV? What is that?
>>>>
>>>> Alternative Vote, also known as Single Transferable Vote. You vote for
>>>> candidates in numerical preference order. If no candidate gains 50% of the
>>>> first preference votes, the second preferences of enough candidates that
>>>> 50% is possible are taken and those candidates eliminated. The process
>>>> repeats until a candidate gets more than 50% of the votes.
>>>>
>>>> So it’s not PR - it’s a way of maintaining constituency
>> representation, by
>>>> the least disliked candidate from the choices given.
>>>>
>>>> Just imagine what would have happened in many of the constituencies where
>>>> the Conservatives came second and Reform came third. Then the ones where
>>>> Reform came second and the Conservatives third. AV would have resulted in a
>>>> very different parliament, but not a more representative one.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The more regular term is preferential ballot.
>>>
>>> Canada came up with ranked ballot.
>>>
>>> They do it in Aus.
>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> “Most of the Universe is knackered, babes.”  - The Doctor
>>>
>>>
>> now i'm the president because i have both ears
> 
> Chieftain I presime.
>   
> 
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