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From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
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Subject: Re: What is "local =?UTF-8?B?dGltZSI/?=
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 12:24:27 +0000
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On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 7:05:30 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 28.10.2024 o 03:38, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 7:37:18 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > W dniu 27.10.2024 o 02:36, gharnagel pisze:
> > >
> > > > So Wozniak believes that space and time are human inventions :-)
> > >
> > > So, after abaut 10 posts when I said it
> > > directly - Harnagel finally got it.
> >
> > Harnagel had it all the time: Wozniak's bizarre assertion is
> > ridiculous.
>
> Still, J've shown you about 40 examples of a time which
> are  obviously a human invention.

Irrelevant.  It takes only ONE valid example to the contrary
to refute the assertion that time is a human invention.

> You've presented no example of the opposite.

Hmmm.  I've presented several examples that refute Wozniak's
bizarre assertion.  Either he is lying or his memory is in
terrible shape, possibly due to addiction.  To jog what's
left of his memory, here's one:
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Words often have more than one definition and this is true
of the word "time."  The dictionary presents several:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/time

Our attempts to measure time (clocks) are what Wozniak
is talking about:

"a: the measured or measurable period during which an
action, process, or condition exists or continues"

But the very fact that trying to measure time with human
inventions is evidence that what we are trying to measure
is something else, which is also referred to as time.
Clocks are analogous to maps, and as maps are not the
territory, clocks are not this:

"b: a nonspatial continuum that is measured in terms of
events which succeed one another from past through present
to future"

which is not a human invention, as evidenced by our not
being able to fully understand it.
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> > > > But Wozniak is the one that brought up pink and purple
> > > > elephants.
> > >
> > > But Harnagel is the one that brought my alleged booze.
> >
> > BECAUSE Wozniak irrationally brought up pink and purple
>
> Oh, a cornered idiot will go for slanders;
> even Socrates 2500 years ago has already
> known that.

:-) Wozniak still misunderstands the definition of "slander"
even after having it explained to him.  This does indeed
imply that he may be guilty of substance abuse.