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From: Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
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Subject: Re: Chilean Spanish
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 16:32:50 +0100
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Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:00:05 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
<naddy@mips.inka.de> scribeva:

>On 2024-03-10, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
>
>>>Coda /s/ is debuccalized to [h] or even deleted completely.
>>
>> That's not typical of Chile. It also happens in Argentinian, Cuban and
>> Andalusian Spanish. And propably a lot of other too.
>
>I haven't noticed it before to this degree in media Spanish.
>(I still need to watch something from Argentinia.)

Old tango music is chockful of it:
https://www.todotango.com/english/artists/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03UbHQ8JWHQ

For years I am have been wondering what the French word "vite" was
doing in a tango song. Until finally I found somewhere on the internet
that it is actually "viste" with an aspirated or almost elided s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrG5ernfF88
Lyrics are here, for example:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/balada-para-un-loco-ballad-crazy.html

>Of course media portrayals are to be taken with a grain of salt and
>may not be representative of how people actually speak.

-- 
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com