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From: nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com (NancyGene)
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Subject: Re: Robert Creeley poem
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:42:32 +0000
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 13:33:17 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 13:03:02 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>

>> If the line had been copied from Creeley with only minor modifications
>> (as George Dance falsely claims), posting it without crediting him
>> *would* be plagiarism.
Absolutely.
>
> No, Lying Michael. Copying one line of someone else's poem to use in a
> poem of one's own is not plagiarism. It may be considered rude, if done
> to a living author, but it is not considered literary theft.

George Dance, you have a distorted view of what plagiarism is. Since
your judgment is so fuzzy, let's consult with an authority:
https://english.richmond.edu/academics/writing-tips-documents/avoiding-plagarism.pdf
"1. Directly copying language: You plagiarize when you take a phrase, a
sentence, or a paragraph (or more) from someone else’s work and present
it as your own.
This kind of plagiarism includes taking language from an Internet site,
copying phrases
from an article, or passing in all or part of a paper you found in a
fraternity or sorority
file, though that list is certainly not exhaustive."

Got it yet, George Dance?
>
>> It doesn't matter whether NancyGene would call it "plagiarism" if
>> someone else did it.  It would be an act of plagiarism regardless of
>> what NancyGene, or anyone else, called it.

We have several times recognized (and called) plagiarism on George Dance
and Pickles.  With proof.

>
> No, Lying Michael: it's something that only a troll would call
> plagiarism: a troll like NastyGoon, or ... yourself.

According to George Dance, the English Department at the University of
Richmond consists of trolls?
>
>> And since George Dance titled the thread this accusation appeared in
>> "NastyGoon lifts a line" (FYI: That is a direct accusation that
>> NancyGene copied the line from Creeley), he's calling her a
>> plagiarist... twice.

What other interpretation could a person make other than that George
Dance is accusing us of stealing a line from another poem/poet?
>
> No, HarryLiar. As Will said, you got the line wrong. The only question
> is why.
The question is why you, George Dance, don't recognize that you are
losing your "marbles."  They are spilling out in every post that you
make.

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