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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: Dream Song 14 / John Berryman
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 03:35:56 +0000
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Faraway Star wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Changes wrote:
>>> VizantOr* wrote:
>>
>>> > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
>>> > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
>>> > we ourselves flash and yearn,
>>> > and moreover my mother told me as a boy
>>> > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored
>>> > means you have no
>>> >
>>> > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no
>>> > inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
>>> > Peoples bore me,
>>> > literature bores me, especially great literature,
>>> > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
>>> > as bad as achilles,
>>> >
>>> > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
>>> > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
>>> > and somehow a dog
>>> > has taken itself & its tail considerably away
>>> > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving
>>> > behind: me, wag.
>>> >
>>> > *John Berryman*
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com
>>> > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }*
>>>
>>> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman
>> John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the
>> excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989:
>>
>> http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison
>>
>> This is interesting (to me, at least).
>>
>> I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was
>> really insightful and thus a good help.
>>
>> "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like
>> that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but
>> slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like
>> William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William
>> Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4
>>
>> About John Berryman, from Wikipedia:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman
>>
>> John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American
>> poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in
>> American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was
>> considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though
>> when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with
>> rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs.
>>
>> And... so it goes.
>
> Cool back story...!
Agreed.