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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 17:43:45 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <ee482f3fa7d24f1e4ae102374d1239ef82f7ba09@i2pn2.org> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <0da78c91e9bc2e4dc5de13bd16e4037ceb8bdfd4@i2pn2.org> <vb57lf$2vud1$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 21:43:45 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="602294"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vb57lf$2vud1$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2818 Lines: 50 On 9/2/24 4:37 PM, WM wrote: > On 02.09.2024 19:19, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 9/2/24 1:07 PM, WM wrote: >>> How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit >>> fractions? The correct answer is: one unit fraction. If you claim >>> more than one (two or three or infintely many), then these more must >>> be equal. But different unit fractions are different and not equal to >>> each other. >>> >>> Another answer is that no unit fraction is lessorequal than all unit >>> fractions. That means the function NUF(x) >>> Number of UnitFractions between 0 and x > 0 >>> with NUF(0) = 0 will never increase but stay at 0. There are no unit >>> fractions existing at all. >>> >>> Therefore there is only the one correct answer given above. >>> >> Nope, because there does not exist AHY unit fraction that is less than >> or equal to ALL Unit fractions, > > Impossible because then NUF will never increase. Then there are no unit > fractions. Which just shows the error in the "definition" of NUF. > >> as any unit fraction you might claim to be that one has a unit >> fraction smaller than itself, so it wasn't the smallest. > > Your argument stems from visible unit fractions but becomes invalid in > the dark domain. But all the unit fractions are visible. You agreed to that you self as you said if n is visible, so will be n+1. Thus, there is no smallest visible unit fraction as there can't be a last one. >> >> The problem with your NUF, is that it is trying to count something >> from and uncountable end, one that doesn't actually have an end. > > The unit fractions end before zero. No, they don't end, they have a bound that is outside of themselves, but have no final member. > > Regards, WM >