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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.theory,sci.math Subject: Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 15:55:44 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <efa0a38984a7dfe8f90089af21b49eca73d2b09f@i2pn2.org> References: <103jmr5$3h0jc$1@dont-email.me> <103k0sc$2q38$1@news.muc.de> <103k1mc$3j4ha$1@dont-email.me> <4f80c7a2c5ba0fb456012c8c753adb89c33d719d@i2pn2.org> <103maod$6dce$6@dont-email.me> <34a4ee630cdb41c899f678237033bad5da5699be@i2pn2.org> <103mg4e$8bjh$1@dont-email.me> <ebec5e9bf8a28e3641eddaee07731dec048b7fe5@i2pn2.org> <103mqdh$9qtq$2@dont-email.me> <043f94bb90e350cd3ab17bc36330ad3cea653abf@i2pn2.org> <103ms8a$ar3e$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:55:55 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2315395"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <103ms8a$ar3e$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 6/27/25 3:43 PM, olcott wrote: > On 6/27/2025 2:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 6/27/25 3:11 PM, olcott wrote:>> >>> Turing Machines can and do compute mappings from finite >>> string inputs. >> >> Right, and those finite strings can be representation of other >> abstract things, like programs or numbers. >> > > > *ChatGPT, Gemini and Grok all agree* > DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach > its simulated "return" statement final halt state. > > https://chatgpt.com/share/685ed9e3-260c-8011-91d0-4dee3ee08f46 > https://gemini.google.com/app/f2527954a959bce4 > https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_b750d0f1-9996-4394-b0e4- > f76f6c77df3d > > In other words, you ars admitting to accepting the LIES of a LLM because you have lied to them, over the reasoned proofs of people. That just proves your stupidity. You are just proving that you have gaslighted yourself so you can not thiknkl. Sorry, but you are just proving that you have doomed yourself with your lies.