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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:37:02 +0100
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On 2024-03-10 08:58, Dave Royal wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:
> 
>> On 2024-03-09 20:24, Newyana2 wrote:
>>> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> | WTF?  Why is the google voice number not a REAL phone number?
>>> |
>>>     As V said, the simple answer is that they want to spy.
>>
>> No, that's not it. Not for a bank.
>>
>> They want to know that you are an actual person with a phone and
>> contract. They have to trust the company giving those numbers.
> 
> Exactly. Banking regulations require them to use 2FA and SMS is a
>   simple and cheap way of doing it. Not very secure, though more
>   secure than email. Also it's easily understood by customers, and
>   that's very important. AMEX send me _both_ an SMS and an email,
>   which is convenient but more insecure - an OTP should go to
>   exactly one device.
> 
> I have a TOTP client on both my phone (FreeOTP) and tablet
>   (andOTP) but none of my UK banks or savings accounts uses them.
>   One bank provides me with an OTP gadget, but that was before 2FA
>   became a legal requirement. I can also use their banking app to
>   generate a code: I think that's what will replace SMS for most
>   people.
> 
> That banks or banking authorities are actually thinking about the
>   security of these SMSs and refusing to send them to some mobile
>   services is vaguely encouraging.

There was an attack on Orange, basically breaking all internet service, 
and it was commented that had the attacked machines (RIPE database?) 
used a simple 2FA, the attack would not have succeeded.

Nothing is fully safe, but an SMS to a mobile is better than nothing.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.