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From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss
Subject: Re: Free speech absolutists weirdos
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:28:21 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Some absurd concept
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In misc.news.internet.discuss, JAB  <here@is.invalid> wrote:
> What's next....VPN service providers?

VPN providers are a lot more infrastructure than platform. In many cases
the VPN will only know the IP addresses you are communicating to instead
of the content. Twitter for example, is all https encrypted on the wire.
People (including VPNs) carrying the traffic know it is going to Twitter
but not what it says.

Twitter, the platform, then decrypts it and applies it's highest
level moderation rules to decide if to immediately nuke it or allow it
up. Only then reader complaints, including copyright takedowns, may
trigger after the fact moderation action or other forms of removal.

The two things you get with a VPN are: (a) different exit IP address for
the service (Twitter here) to see, and (b) different destination IP
address for your local provider to see when talking to Twitter.

VPN into a private network, like businesses use for remote employees,
gives businesses certainy that everything is encrypted, but mostly gives
them the (a) different exit IP address which allows simpler white list
rules for who can connect to a server: everything from the exit IP is
allowed, instead of one IP address per remote employee.

Elijah
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not all VPN services do much in the way of encrypting, that's extra CPU