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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix5.panix.com!qz!not-for-mail From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss Subject: Re: Free speech absolutists weirdos Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:28:21 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Some absurd concept Message-ID: <eli$2408260028@qaz.wtf> References: <vaghon$2598p$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:28:21 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix5.panix.com:166.84.1.5"; logging-data="1971"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: Vectrex rn 2.1 (beta) X-Liz: It's actually happened, the entire Internet is a massive game of Redcode X-Motto: "Erosion of rights never seems to reverse itself." -- kenny@panix X-US-Congress: Moronic Fucks. X-Attribution: EtB XFrom: is a real address Encrypted: double rot-13 Bytes: 2275 Lines: 26 In misc.news.internet.discuss, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote: > What's next....VPN service providers? VPN providers are a lot more infrastructure than platform. In many cases the VPN will only know the IP addresses you are communicating to instead of the content. Twitter for example, is all https encrypted on the wire. People (including VPNs) carrying the traffic know it is going to Twitter but not what it says. Twitter, the platform, then decrypts it and applies it's highest level moderation rules to decide if to immediately nuke it or allow it up. Only then reader complaints, including copyright takedowns, may trigger after the fact moderation action or other forms of removal. The two things you get with a VPN are: (a) different exit IP address for the service (Twitter here) to see, and (b) different destination IP address for your local provider to see when talking to Twitter. VPN into a private network, like businesses use for remote employees, gives businesses certainy that everything is encrypted, but mostly gives them the (a) different exit IP address which allows simpler white list rules for who can connect to a server: everything from the exit IP is allowed, instead of one IP address per remote employee. Elijah ------ not all VPN services do much in the way of encrypting, that's extra CPU