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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix5.panix.com!qz!not-for-mail From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: TIL: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9COpen?= Source Rug =?UTF-8?Q?Pull?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9D?= Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:13:38 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Some absurd concept Message-ID: <eli$2410312013@qaz.wtf> References: <vcnria$1r15a$3@dont-email.me> <20241101011151.33855a7d3b01c48c5d4374c3@gmail.moc> Injection-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:13:38 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix5.panix.com:166.84.1.5"; logging-data="4947"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: Vectrex rn 2.1 (beta) X-Liz: It's actually happened, the entire Internet is a massive game of Redcode X-Motto: "Erosion of rights never seems to reverse itself." -- kenny@panix X-US-Congress: Moronic Fucks. X-Attribution: EtB XFrom: is a real address Encrypted: double rot-13 Bytes: 2689 Lines: 39 In comp.misc, Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro: > > From <https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2024/09/13/open-source-foundations-considered-helpful/>: > > > > The "rug pull" here refers to companies that have used open source > > as a distribution mechanism, building a community and user base, > > before changing the license to be restricted, rather than truly > > open source. > Isn't it exactly what GNU GPL provides against? Lots of licenses prevent this: sort-of. The code up until the license change remains available under the previous license, but the companies keep developing it and newer code is not free and older code is not supported. This is a problem if you rely on using supported products. But maybe someone else takes the unencumbered version and develops that. Then you get a fork that may no longer be compatible, an issue if you use code from a third party to interact with it. As an example, see Elasticsearch changing their license, AWS forking it to Opensearch, and the two code bases diverging, while various libraries kept up with Elastic. Other variations are possible. Open Source doesn't scale so well when the code base is bigger than a single human can fully understand. Forks become the product of some other business or go stale. Or you get Open Source like Android. Go ahead, compile it yourself. Good luck using that -- without even modifying it -- as a drop in replacement on your phone. A few, very rare, projects do succeed despite breaking the "single human" barrier. Also a few, very rare, people win the lottery. Elijah ------ fucking Android