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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:17:21 -0400
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 03:50:41 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 3/11/2025 8:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:58:04 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/11/2025 6:47 AM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On 11 Mar 2025 10:23:20 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 6:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 2:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People form their own opinions and arrange their own
>>>>>>>> behavior based on their own situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes - or based on their own phobias. I know people who are
>>>>>>> horribly afraid of spiders, garter snakes, honeybees,
>>>>>>> graveyards and more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Smart? No. Logical? No. But at least they're not carrying
>>>>>>> lethal weaponry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My daughter for example used to take the train to work in
>>>>>>>> inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters.
>>>>>>>> No longer. ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're the anecdote master, Andrew. But IIRC you've not yet
>>>>>>> found a horrifying anecdote about quiet bike paths in
>>>>>>> suburban Florida, near our timid tricycle rider.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a bike path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because it can happen doesn’t mean it will happen, going out on limb
>>>>> but I suspect that CatTrike Ryder will be perfectly safe with or without
>>>>> carrying any guns on his rides.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect he knows this as well, but simply likes having the gun on him?
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>
>>>> I spent more then a year in Vietnam where people did, on occasion,
>>>> shoot at you and I can assure you that a firearm did give you a
>>>> certain sense of security :-)
>>>>
>>>> Even when they weren't shooting :-)
>>>
>>> lol...yeah, let's compare an active war zone to a florida bike path -
>>> that's rational.....
>> 
>> The point was, as I did state, "you felt more secure "even when they
>> weren't shooting"
>
>Comparing a bike path in floriduh in 2025 to vietnam in 1970 isn't 
>rational, in fact, it's pretty fucking stupid....kunich-level stupid.
>
>>   
>> But as I've said (many times) it is legal in Florida. You would deny
>> someone the right to do something that is legal? 
>
>nope, if he wants to carry a gun, he's free to do so. His rationale for 
>carrying one is weak in that the risk of being attacked on the trail is 
>less than being struck by lightening, and the idea that a fragile old 
>man with his admitted deteriorating motor skills, eyesight, and hearing 
>could actually defend himself without an assailant taking the gun from 
>him and pistol whipping him with it is laughable.
>
>But in the immortal words of Mason Williams, "one day you realize that 
>'I Want to' is the worlds greatest reason".
>
>
>> Isn't it still a
>> (sort of) democracy back there?
>
>The fact that there is no linkage between a working democracy and the 
>"right" to own guns notwithstanding, the answer to that question is: 
>Sort of, but it's slipping fast. In 2022 trump stated “A Massive Fraud 
>of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, 
>regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”. Throw 
>in the recent SCOTUS decision that gave trump broad immunity by ruling 
>that the president is immune from prosecution for any and all official 
>acts committed as president, followed by his more recent X postings “He 
>who saves his Country does not violate any Law” (not just once, but 
>twice). Trump is emboldened to ignore the rule of law, which is not 
>unlimited to blatantly unconstitutional acts (He's already done that 
>with his refusal to honor the spending bills passed by congress - 
>essentially implementing line-item vetos pafter the fact - clearly ruled 
>by SCOTUS as unconstitutional numerous times.
>
>This is the man(?) that the majority of americans voted for. So you tell 
>me, do we still have a democracy?
>
>

"spending bills passed by congress" that add to the already
$36,000,000,000+ debt. The people have spoken.

--
C'est bon
Soloman