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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Things presented in-story as Good Ideas that seem like really Bad Ideas Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:42:42 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <eu26ejtjh91tdpenvaqdp0pajr42fv1gff@4ax.com> References: <lk79hhFp0bkU1@mid.individual.net> <vbtbuv$3r3vo$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:42:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7b264c8e996395f939b9b49f2dbf0d24"; logging-data="349401"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+rZMC+/8HYIgnazewf5/FgqYGo2Cxh2m8=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:nFDph90XRvh4ocGs20pBc95f2b0= Bytes: 2598 On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 20:17:34 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote: >On 9/8/24 11:49 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> Lucky Starr's "Council Of Science", the Venus Belt, the Federation's >> "Prime Directive". Things like that. >>=20 >> Examples? >>=20 >> (How about we exempt Super-Powered Vigilantes) > >This reminds me of an example I have mentioned here before, 1-2 years=20 >ago, but it's a rather large spoiler for the work in question (The Stars= =20 >Asunder by Doyle & MacDonald). > > >Spoiler for The Stars Asunder below, >Tony > > >Spoiler for the stupidest first-contact strategy I=92ve ever seen, >courtesy of Doyle & MacDonald in The Stars Asunder=85 > > >here there be spoilers... > > > >last spoiler space for 50 miles... > > > >A ship belonging to Civilization =93A=94, which I charitably won=92t = refer >to as The Civilization Of Tunnel-Visioned Militaristic Idiots, has=20 >occasion to make first contact with a ship from Civilization =93B=94. > >They sincerely believe =97 as in, it is played straight in the book that= =20 >these people think this will be a successful way to establish relations=20 >to the mutual benefit of both civilizations =97 it will go best if they=20 >grapple/tether the other ship, make a hole in their hull, and send an=20 >armed boarding party through. So they're imperialists/colonialists. Not uncommon at all. So, what else is new? --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"