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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 09:49:58 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <f01c00463608385b18dba3b5a945f5007e9b3c9e@i2pn2.org> References: <v644pn$29t4h$3@dont-email.me> <v645v1$29pag$3@dont-email.me> <v646v5$2agfo$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 09:49:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2224012"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2558 Lines: 36 Am Wed, 03 Jul 2024 13:57:40 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/3/2024 1:40 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:20 schreef olcott: >>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite set of every >>> pure function HHH cannot possibly reach its own ret instruction and >>> halt. That HHH aborts its emulation at some point or never aborts its >>> emulation cannot possibly change this. >>> >> Ad hominem attacks always try to hide a lack of argumentation. >> It has been proved that HHH cannot possibly correctly simulate itself. > > That is false and you know it. That might not be a flat out lie as it is > an sloppy use of language. > > HHH does correctly simulate itself simulating DDD one time, then it > stops correctly simulating itself because this criteria is met: > HHH correctly simulates its input DDD until HHH correctly > determines that its simulated DDD would never stop running unless > aborted But it would stop running. >> So, the above code shows that the incorrect simulation of DDD by HHH is >> unable to reach the 'ret' instruction, because it either never aborts, >> or aborts one cycle too soon, when the simulated HHH is only one cycle >> from its own abort and return and then the return of DDD would follow. > The criteria is: > HHH simulates its input DDD until HHH > determines that its simulated DDD would never stop running unless > aborted > Richard always lies about this by making sure that he ever sees the word > UNTIL. -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.