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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: gun carrry on bikes Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 18:48:21 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <f0peejt72nitnnhgni46esmv82sfjtkinm@4ax.com> References: <TVWEO.203902$kpic.201042@fx15.ams4> <vc1f53$ssl8$1@dont-email.me> <jL_EO.385225$grz1.291350@fx03.ams4> <vc1urd$vige$2@dont-email.me> <1r%EO.304287$kpic.194284@fx15.ams4> <7g19ejd7f87rbnjhp7o81fm27vb7v5vv07@4ax.com> <HG0FO.731584$azJ4.425506@fx16.ams4> <l269ejl2qv33b902c7f1lir48biu8d6rl7@4ax.com> <BacFO.733442$azJ4.36608@fx16.ams4> <vc45tj$1gaju$5@dont-email.me> <vc4sn4$1li1o$3@dont-email.me> <vc6usg$27805$2@dont-email.me> <vc7ak8$2a7j4$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:48:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="518981d629e6b20e2216ba5f087ad22c"; logging-data="2549966"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+t0FhE74pEuom6rae7nMTrw/c8Qjyx2t0=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:9tW/yX1LbTqfq+cX+/xR0lMEqOg= Bytes: 3521 On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 14:56:09 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 9/15/2024 11:35 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 9/14/2024 3:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> >>> Come to think of it, we still haven't found anyone here saying they >>> commonly carry a gun while riding. Well, except one person, a man who >>> said riding on a normal road cannot be safe, who is also afraid to >>> walk his residential neighborhood without a gun, and who is afraid to >>> respond to others who greet him on his segregated bike trail. >>> >>> Such fear! >>> >> >> Here's a good short overview covering your questions: >> https://gundigest.com/more/classic-guns/bicycle-gun-the-doggone-history- >> of-these-pocket-pistols > >Yes, I remember seeing reproduced ads for such things in bicycle history >books and reprinted ancient Sears catalogs. You've proved that long, >long ago there were many cyclists who carried guns to stop dogs. Your >other link mentioned that they were usually very small bore (5mm?) and >their effect was mostly due to the noise. > >> Note the first wave of these (1880s~1920s) was very popular with many >> vendors and millions sold. A 1997 modern copy failed to sell well. The >> author notes leash laws were a contributing factor to diminish canine >> threats. > >I agree. I began avid adult cycling in a southern U.S. state where >multiple dogs per household were common, leash laws (apparently) didn't >exist, and we were chased by dogs almost every ride. I got to be expert >at handling them, and was once quoted in _Bicycling!_ magazine on the >issue. Oh My, just look at you. >> My point was merely that when riders commonly felt a need to carry >> pistols, they did in fact mange to carry them. With neither nylon nor >> Velcro I might add! >Right. If our timid tricycle rider were transported back to the late >1800s, I probably wouldn't be saying how fearful he is. But this is >today, where I note he's never mentioned ever having to use the handgun >he carries for feelings of security. -- C'est bon Soloman