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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: electrical deaths Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 20:46:23 +0100 Lines: 60 Message-ID: <f1ru1lxdqh.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <iv1dkj1d8qa5cvm4r5b7mbehcot0lnd057@4ax.com> <vi62rh$14fi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vi7k6j$37g9$6@dont-email.me> <vi99bt$f1r1$1@dont-email.me> <1r3qb00.1fgzoxb1tmjhzN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vi9mqg$hds0$1@dont-email.me> <ah8m1lxq3c.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vi9vb0$irso$1@dont-email.me> <gien1lx4sm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <bs7ikjl54agfrrc7q9q24kmt66f28j3pvt@4ax.com> <vii6dc$2lh78$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 4aXTVOdeKMBQK2XpsOXNzgQOvCksgFUKNvSN8zN8uVYK+WqJ8d X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:eWO2+LyDJfFCH0BwgCFKXBghKpg= sha256:wux/3n2Qu7AQF5+sP3MQnzqqeXlqhh3To5E7V+ts8Bw= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vii6dc$2lh78$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3774 On 2024-12-01 18:29, Cursitor Doom wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 17:58:18 -0800, john larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 01:30:40 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 2024-11-28 15:39, Clive Arthur wrote: >>>> On 28/11/2024 13:41, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2024-11-28 13:14, Martin Brown wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>> One of my friends at university (at a top level institution) found >>>>>> himself holding a live plug a on Jesus lead left behind by a >>>>>> previous graduate student. The burns from that were horrific. Once >>>>>> attached you can't let go or move and burning human flesh doesn't >>>>>> smell good. He was probably only on for 30s before someone realised >>>>>> and disconnected him. >>>>> >>>>> What's a "Jesus lead"? I tried to google, but what I find are songs. >>>> >>>> A mains cable with a plug at both ends. It means your home-made disco >>>> console can use a readily obtainable mains socket for power input and >>>> it doesn't matter which way round you unwind the cable. Another >>>> advantage is that you can unplug the console end and use it to fend >>>> off violent drunks. >>>> >>>> I don't understand why they're not used more often. >>> >>> Jesus! >>> >>> Yes, I have seen them. On 220 volts. They were used for transformers, >>> those that had 120 on one side, 220 on the other, both being female >>> sockets, so you needed a cable with two male plugs to connect them to >>> the wall. >>> >>> We don't see such transformers anymore, but when I was a kid they were >>> common, because although most houses were 220 volts, some were 125, so >>> we had gadgets of both voltages. >> >> I've seen them used between two houses, when one had the power shut off. > > There are thousands of 240VAC to 110VAC transformers in the UK. You can > buy or hire them. They are mandatory for site work. IOW, builders who need > mains power for their drills and saws etc have to use these transformers > for safety reasons. Huh? Why would they want to use their power tools at half the voltage and at least half the power? Running a 240 volt drill at 110? It would make sense to use a 240:240 isolation transformer, though. > They're not really practical for me, though, since > they're industrial jobs and weigh about 30lb each. Hence I'd use my variac > for anything up to 1hp load. It only handles up to 3.15A max but at least > I can move it around with ease. -- Cheers, Carlos.