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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Why the time kept at the ISS is =?UTF-8?B?VVRDPyBBbmQgRWluc3RlaW4n?= =?UTF-8?B?cyB0aW1lPw==?= Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:56:50 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <f2e25a2e1c41b863f499e1b45a3228f7@www.novabbs.com> References: <99d6b19973967e9baf139c1ef2c16397@www.novabbs.com> <qDg6P.20779$34ve.14064@fx03.ams4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2528901"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$OdY4AKo9tsb4pfRgmuotnOL2fPVqMvlFBrEJBYNQ7h/WpnC78hii. Bytes: 3198 Lines: 55 On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:41:55 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote: > Den 08.12.2024 19:29, skrev rhertz: >> The International Space Station (ISS) uses Coordinated Universal Time >> (UTC), also known as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), as its standard time. >> UTC is the scientific standard of timekeeping for the world and is based >> on atomic clocks. >> >> The ISS is a partnership between five space agencies from 15 countries. >> The station is continuously operated 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 >> days a year. Crews from the U.S., Russia, Japan, Canada, and Europe live >> and work on the ISS, which orbits Earth every 90 minutes. >> >> The shuttles also had UTC clocks so that the astronauts could easily >> figure out what the "official" time aboard ISS was. >> >> It's a compromise for the Americans and Russians. The crew day begins at >> about two in the morning in Houston and ends at about eleven at night in >> Moscow. >> > > Of course UTC is used in manned space crafts and space vehicles > that need to communicate with the Earth. > >> >> So, for ISS, t = t'. Einstein's SR time is not even considered, even >> when there are several atomic clocks onboard. >> >> More yet, any space vehicle used to transport astro/cosmonauts keeps >> time using UTC/GMT. > > Yes, of course! > >> >> Reality dictates that the world is used to t = t'. > > This is a meaningless statement. > > The truth is that no clock which ticks out seconds as defined by SI > will stay synchronous with UTC, unless it is on the Earth's geoid. > > This is so thoroughly experimentally verified that it can be > considered to be a fact, and nothing to discuss. > > https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf > According to relativists here recently, the LT must be required due to the motion of the Earth, even though it is only 1/10,000th the speed of light. The GPS has to communicate with the Earth. Seconds defined by SI are defined by atomic clocks, so atomic clocks move at a different rate in space. Inferring that time runs at a different rate is absurd. The rate of combustion of rocket fuel remains the same.