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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and NAMBLA
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 17:32:14 +0000
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 14:51:45 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:39:15 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
>>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:23:41 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
>>>>> "HarryLime"aka "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 0:13:13 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> My reason for opening a new thread would be because you're constantly
>>>>>>> bringing up my poem in unrelated threads, as per your M.O. which I
>>>>>>> already noted. (As that contained a few typos), I'll copy it in here:
>
>>>>>>> "That's been your regular M.O. since you showed up. Whenever I try to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a conversation with Will, about anything, you jump in and start spewing
>>>>>>> false claims about something else, in the mistaken belief that I'd only
>>>>>>> have two options:
>>>>>>> (1) try to refute your false claims, in which case you've successfully
>>>>>>> disrupted the conversation; or
>>>>>>> (2) ignore them (in which some people might think those false claims of
>>>>>>> yours are actually true)."
>
>>>>>> If you make false statements about me on a social media platform
>>>>>> (libel), you should expect, at very least, a refutation.
>>>
>>> I opened this thread to respond to false statements you were making
>>> about your flame war on Stephan, Will, myself, and others on other
>>> threads. No one has said it wasn't about you.

A good thread to correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the
record straight without having to carry all the troll bullshit along
with us as spewed by Harry Lime and his gang of troll thugs.

>> It's history, and certain aspects of that decade long flame war haven't
>> been documented.
>
>> Not all old threads are available on Nova BBS or JLA Forums.
>>
>> Thus, new thread is easily the best option.
>
>>>>>>>> Rereading it requires much less time on both our parts than repeating
>>>>>>>> the same points that we'd made at the time.
>>
>> It takes time but that's Usenet newsgroups for you.
>
> No

Yes.

>>>>>>> HarryLiar, no one is asking you to comment on that thread (or any of the
>>>>>>> other threads I've opened FTM).
>>
>> Exactly, you don't need our permission to sit this one out, Pendragon.
>>
>> If you have nothing to say on the poem,
>>>>>>> you're more than welcome to sit that one out.
>>
>> Exactly what I was thinking.
>>
>>>>>> Since the Subject of this thread is "Re: The Lime sock on Stephan
>>>>>> Pickering and NAMBLA" (and since "The Lime sock[sic]" is the latest
>>>>>> childish name you have come up with to call me
>>
>> After all the childish name-calling you've done over the last decade
>> you're going to whine about childish name-calling?
>>
>> Oh, the hypocrisy...
>
> Are you really

Are you really?

> I'm saying that if the thread is about me, you cant expect me to "sit
> that one out."

Fair enough, I'm exactly the same.

I'll continue to correct lies and misrepresentations and then set the
record straight.

>>>>> Ever the hypocrite here's Michael Pendragon whining about childish name
>>>>> calling when he's the one who began that practice here years ago.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not complaining about the name-calling
>>
>> You sure seem to be, Harry.
>
> Learn

We learned about your agenda long ago, Harry.

>>>> I'm merely pointing out that "The Lime sock[sic]" is George Dance's
>>>> latest name for me.
>>
>> We already know that, why bother to waste our time whining about it?
>>
>>> Get with the program. Precisely because of the whining about your
>>> petname that Will mentioned, I changed it several days ago.
>>
>> Pendragon the little green monkey boy?
>>
>> 😏
>>
>>> No, Lying Michael; this thread was a response to comments that you were
>>> making about your flaming of Stephan (in another thread for deflection
>>> purposes, as per your M.O.) You comments were quoted fairly and
>>> accurately, not "reworded" in the slightest.
>>
>> High time we documented that dark era of Usenet poetry newsgroups.

At least in better detail.

> delusional

I pointed out thT YOU are delusional years ago and here you are
second-handing my statement.

>>> You're welcome to talk about them here; but be warned that going
>>> forward, if you attempt to deflect by talking about something else, your
>>> comments will be snipped here, and moved to the appropriate thread where
>>> necessary.
>>
>> On that note, we probably need an Allen Ginsberg thread.
>>
>>>> Mr. Dance was whining
>>
>> Actually, you're the one whining, Harry/Pendragon.

Whining, lying and spreading misrepresentations, that's the Harry Lime
way.

>> As I pointed out a couple of paragraphs ago.
>>
>>> No, Lying Michael. I am "whining" about you (once again) immediately
>>> trying to change the subject of the discussion to something else. Your
>>> first comment in this thread was to call me a liar (presumably just for
>>> preemption). Your second was a misrepresentation of something I'd said
>>> in the "Psychology of MPP" thread which I'd already dealt with on that
>>> thread, so you simply repeated it here. Your third comment contained
>>> both a lie and a faked quote about my poem "My Father's House". (Both
>>> the latter two have been moved to the "My Father's House" thread Will
>>> opened, if you're willing to talk about them there.)
>>
>> Which was actually derailed by Cujo's deflecting.
>>
>>> It's hardly a one-sided conversation, HarryLiar, when and all my posts
>>> in it (including the OP) have been replies to you, and you've written
>>> more posts in it than I have,  Please stop whining about being excluded
>>> from it, since you obviously are not.
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>> Now you're supporting your earlier lie with fake quotes, which did not
>>> come from anything I said, but came from you.
>>>
>>>>> Tit for Tat is a concept that still seems to go over his head.
>>>>>
>>>>> And so it goes.
>>>>
>>>> Tit for Tat is a concept that I abandoned somewhere before having
>>>> attended Kindergarten.  Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for you and
>>>> George.
>>>
>>> No, Lying Michael. You continually rely on the concept. You may not
>>> believe in govern your own behavior by reciprocal ethics - there's no
>>> sign that your behavior is governed by any ethics - but you clearly pay
>>> lip service to T4T to try to justify your behavior.
>>>
>>> For instance, every time that you "attack" (troll and flame) someone,
>>> you try to justify it with a story (sometimes true, sometimes not) that
>>> they attacked you first. That's been the gist of every one of your
>>> on-topic statements about the Team Monkey flamewar; that you and your
>>> team went after Stephan, Will, and myself because they "attacked" you
>>> first.
>>
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