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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 04:44:29 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <f4440k9j79aakvdh01b8vrabnbd0him3f6@4ax.com> References: <vto8kg$27757$1@dont-email.me> <1qbvvjlicmocd7rl859vlve22h6galrndg@4ax.com> <kahvvj5d4moisd4pn6kmebidv70nuaocfm@4ax.com> <1jn00kl03kddk8rkhr3bnpabv7u5i9sout@4ax.com> <fee10kd59cfctksurnlaiabgskn8hi7r7f@4ax.com> <vtqspg$l1gd$2@dont-email.me> <srt10k1fs3lqacj0tirgcm9p1ljkqep4p7@4ax.com> <vtrto8$1g01o$1@dont-email.me> <vts7bt$1ojor$1@dont-email.me> <vts8vv$1r8dg$2@dont-email.me> <vtsbpd$1t9s9$2@dont-email.me> <vtsc64$1tvda$1@dont-email.me> <vtsd31$1t9s9$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 10:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="521db7e34b604c3960443b213f25774a"; logging-data="2794089"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19dxxeNEK3uVWQcX9xs7/KlZ3eVxIZZ2og=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:TwNegKqkOxFganDC9Udu+F1FkMI= On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:23:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 4/17/2025 10:08 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 4/17/2025 9:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> >>> Oh, and "speech" in the form of millionaire or corporate campaign >>> contributions is an abomination. >> >> How so? >> If I have an individual right to free speech (and I absolutely do), then >> why may my right be curtailed when I join with others of like mind? >> >> It's a long standing feature of common law (well before USA) that >> corporations are fictitious persons, entitled to rights of their >> composite individuals when they act as one. > >Common law or not, I think the idea of a corporation being a "person" is >nuts. But even if one accepts their "personhood," they should be limited >to the amount of speech that _one_ person can produce. > >And "speech" measured in dollars is an abomination. The party that spent by far, the most money in the 2024 Presidential campaign lost that election by a significant margin. That suggests to me that the amount of money spent is less significant than the characteristics of the candidates and the number of times and places that their campaign messages get repeated. -- "Let it be" --Paul McCartney