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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery
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HarryLime wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Faraway Star wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> > >> I Met A Girl
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> I met a girl
>>>>>>>>> > >> she came from California.
>>>>>>>>> > >> It was in a dream
>>>>>>>>> > >> we knew each other instantly.
>>>>>>>>> > >> She was a little freckled girl
>>>>>>>>> > >> from out of
>>>>>>>>> > >> my high school past.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>> > >> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>> > >> I've forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>> > >> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> We talked
>>>>>>>>> > >> a really detached situation.
>>>>>>>>> > >> She said years ago
>>>>>>>>> > >> I was so shy
>>>>>>>>> > >> she thought I was gay.
>>>>>>>>> > >> At this point I kissed her
>>>>>>>>> > >> and put my finger to her hole.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> And she looked up at me
>>>>>>>>> > >> and talked real spacey.
>>>>>>>>> > >> I have forgotten her name
>>>>>>>>> > >> though she told it to me twice.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> I don't know why it was
>>>>>>>>> > >> that I would think of her.
>>>>>>>>> > >> I made a couple of puns
>>>>>>>>> > >> about her name that made me blush.
>>>>>>>>> > >> But her softness in tone
>>>>>>>>> > >> made me feel all right.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> All I want to do
>>>>>>>>> > >> is get in contact.
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> -Will Dockery / May 8 1982
>
>>>>> The official version of this poem.
>
>>>>> Yes, that matters.
>
>>>>>>>> > Only second read of this today, it captures that touch of Bukowski.

There's definitely a Buk influence there,vas well as the songs of the
day such as the Clash, who often collaborated with Allah Ginsberg.

>>>> Your poem is still extremely misogynistic

Absolutely untrue, I love women.

> Demeaning and degrading to women

Not at all, the poem is simply written in the Erotic poetry genre.

In other words, you're spreading a lying misrepresentation that has been
shown wrong many times.

>>> I don't think so at all, as I've pointed out earlier, the poem is in the
>>> Erotic poetry genre, and the characters are influenced by Beatnik and
>>> 1980s new wave and punk rock zeitgeist of those eras.
>>>
>>> The poetry is a snapshot from 1982, very different times which you
>>> apparently missed, Pendragon.
>>
>> Admittedly, I've never groped a young woman 2 minutes after meeting her.

Once again, that's not in the poem, Pendragon.

Not at all, it's a very accurate depiction of a rock and roll romance
>>> circa early 1980s

As I said, I know because I was there, I lived and dreamed it.

Glad to clear up your confusion and set the record straight again,
although I noticed you just posted a really long post about the poem
which i may not be able to completely respond to until later tonight,
since tonight is a work night for me.

More later.