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Subject: Re: Argument with ChatGPT about that Pound-Rebka experiment was A FRAUD.
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:07:05 +0000
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:07:04 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
> I accidentally posted the above, which was unfinished.
>
> - THREE MAJOR QUANTUM EFFECTS, which are of common knowledge today:
>
>    -Electric Monopole Interaction
>    —Electric Quadrupole Interaction
>    —Magnetic Dipole Interaction
>
>
> - Overload on the discriminators and proportional counters due to their
> LOW
>   BANDWIDTH (long temporal shaping of pulses after the photomultiplier)
> and
>   an excessive flux of photons over the absorber.
>
>   A lot of incidences post-absorber caused that detected gamma photons
> were
>   occurring at the same time, giving WRONG LECTURES in the counters due
> to
>   wrong discrimination of the energy of detected photons.
>
> I could follow this for much longer, but I left the job for anyone
> wanting to
> fact-check the two papers (1960 and 1965):
>
>
> http://webs.ftmc.uam.es/juancarlos.cuevas/Teaching/Pound-Rebka-PRL1960.pdf
>
> http://rsefalicante.umh.es/TemasRelatGeneral/Documentos/Articulo_Pound_Snider.pdf
>
>
>
> You can observe how dark, complex and also evasive wording was used by
> Pound in both papers. Hiding the truth behind a wall of words.

At the time Pound and Rebka conducted their experiment, it was not yet
understood that gravitational time dilation is a feature of EVERY
theory of gravitation that respects the equivalence principle. This
includes Newtonian gravitation.

Although you reject GR, gravitational redshift/blueshift is at this
time an extremely well-documented phenomenon. For example, many years
of accumulated data have proven that standard clocks in Boulder, CO
tick at a different rate than the USNO clocks.

Do you reject the Pound-Rebka through Pound-Snider series of
experiments as verifying a fundamental prediction of ***Newtonian***
gravitation? Do you believe that Gravity Probe A is a fraud? Do you
believe that the people who maintain UTC as a weighted average of
hundreds of standards clocks around the world are lying when they
apply corrections for gravitational time dilation to the clock
readings, when these corrections can be understood as a consequence
of ***Newtonian*** gravitation?