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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What is a photon Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 14:09:50 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <f73645afb4a250b0614f21691dc2b41d@www.novabbs.org> References: <9af3e95b721801ec23446e0d70f081b3@www.novabbs.org> <101ibuk$2erne$2@dont-email.me> <7375d1095954e7c49e6d8923e414b7d9@www.novabbs.com> <09f1b4d34dc9932202999b3a6d5945e5@www.novabbs.com> <a23e4658d0f041e765c3086288cd9681@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2969170"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="8Ljlg8xw5cAHatvjdHGGjEHKUx9ddlqxMwQzk4UFm4k"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$GYdwnENnm1fQ0iI4dmJqTuJkw29oMjB2iSHbpgmCoYbLzooEDWTwK X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: d6bc49351b0faa08a25d2b434d815198335a8b45 On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 10:52:56 +0000, rhertz wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 3:13:59 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 1:07:24 +0000, rhertz wrote: >> >>> This is MY DEFINITION of what a photon is, which merges Maxwell and >>> Planck: >>> >>> A photon (Planck) is a ray of light (Maxwell), which is: >>> >>> - Self-propelled point-like particle that is the least component of >>> light itself. >> >> Rubbish. Point particles can not bend nicely in denser medium. They >> cannot have interference patterns. They cannot be polarized. They cannot >> get a uniform phase front as in laser or maser. They cannot diffract. >> There is no way they can create standing wave patterns. > > > > > Bertietaylor, YOUR LACK OF CRITICAL THINKING AND MULTIDIMENSIONAL > ANALYSIS IS APPALLING. YOU NEED TO RESET YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT IS > WRONG WITH YOUR MIND. We the heavendogs of divine Arindam are perfectly sane and sound; you apes are crazy, if not cunning parasitic apes howling out lies for funding. > > IT'S NOT THE POINT-LIKE PARTICLE WHICH BENDS OR CREATE INTERFERENCE > PATTERNS, MAN. Certainly not. > > IT'S DUE TO THEIR ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL AND MAGNETIC FIELDS, WHICH ARE > SELF-GENERATED AND SELF-SUSTAINED FOREVER, ACROSS HUGE DISTANCES OF > BILLIONS OF LY. There are no particles, foolish ape. There are only disturbances of travelling amplitude/frequency varying electric and magnetic fields in the medium of aether. What you call a particle is nothing but a brief electromagnetic pulse caused by distortions of the electronic orbits in atoms, for light. For gamma rays that is because of the very small distances between the nucleus and the escaping electrons. For low frequncies the distances involved are large and so the electric fields are easy to detect along the radiator, or associated transmission line (VSWR measurements involving slotted coaxial cable). > > WHEN TRESPASSING MEDIUMS ON ITS LONG JOURNEY ON SPACE, BOTH FIELDS ADAPT > TO CORRECT THE SPEED OF SUCH PARTICLE (AKA PHOTON). Rubbish, blah, nonsense, brainwashed aether denying fool. > > ALWAYS, SINCE 1865 AND 1901, BOTH THEORIES WERE THE EXACT REPRESENTATION > OF A TOP-DOWN APPROACH (MAXWELL) AND A BOTTOM-UP APPROACH (PLANCK). Planck is rubbish, those apes did not have a clue about antenna theory. Arindam easily explained the photoelectric effect with antenna theory. NO need for quantum bunkum. You silly apes have no clue about energy, really. Whereas Arindam has united all forces as electric, explained the cause of gravity, novas and supernovas. > > THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IT OR UNDERSTAND IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT A DEEP > THINKER, AND I PITY YOU FOR IT. Arindam is the greatest of all time as a genius, and as a physicist he comes after Newton. The Newton-Arindam laws of motion will take humanity to the stars or at least to the Moon, hopefully in Arindam's lifetime. You miserable aether-denying apes have your cowardice and conformity and careerism - so predictable. > > GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND BOTH MODELS SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND > YOU'LL FIND THE TRUTH THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A CENTURY, DUE TO > FUCKING IMBECILES LIKE THE QUANTUM GUYS, WHO PRETENDED (VERY ENCOURAGED) > TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD IN A WAY MUCH MORE COMPLEX THAN WHAT IS NEEDED. > > EITHER IN RADIO ENGINEERING OR IN QUANTUM PHYSICS, THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE > THE SAME. THIS IS WHAT ALLOWED PROGRESS IN PHOTONICS AS WELL AS ANYTHING > RELATED TO RADIO TELECOM, RANGING, ETC. What a confused ape you are! Get this clear - thermodynamics is wrong, relativity is depravity and quantum is bunkum. Nature is not schizophrenic; so do not give that quality to the most important aspect of Nature - light! Light thus cannot be a particle or a wave, depending upon mood of the pseudoscientist who will for his funding from the Abrahmics_allsorts deny the existence of aum, or aether. Woof woof woof woof woo Bertietaylor > > > > > > > > > > >>> >>> - It's a carrier of energy (Planck) that is emitted/absorbed by >>> electrons that >>> are orbiting atoms, which have different levels of energy. >> >> Forget energy. That is trader talk from Jewish physics. It is force that >> is the keyword. Aether is back thanks to Arindam and all the >> extraordinary bungling wrapped by math gibberish is out. >>> >>> - It's created as if space of any kind (Maxwell) IGNITES under such >>> discharge >>> causing that the point-like energy oscillates with electric and >>> magnetic fields >>> in quadrature, with speed depending on the refraction index of the >>> media. >> >> Blah >> >> WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >> >> Bertietaylor >>> >>> - Under classic physics (Maxwell, unaware of Planck discovery) photons >>> are not >>> perceived as a sum of enormous amounts of ray of light (each ray >>> linked to a >>> bounded electron). On the opposite side, under Planck vision, light is >>> composed >>> of a large amount of photons, each one with energy E=hf. >>> >>> - The confusion between classic and quantum physics is due to the >>> interpretation >>> of what light is. In Maxwell's world, light is the sum (coherent or >>> not) of huge >>> amounts of ray of light (each one a photon), and is expressed in terms >>> of energy >>> per unit area. In Planck's world, light is the sum (coherent or not) >>> of huge >>> amount of photons, each one carrying energy E=hf. >>> >>> - The speed of the photon or the ray of light is defined by Maxwell, in >>> terms of >>> the permittivity and permeability of the medium. The collision of the >>> emitted >>> energy per atom is what ignites the medium, creating the point-like >>> particle. >>> >>> - The classic representation of light as a sinusoidal wave is just an >>> abstraction >>> used for more than a century, representing the behavior of the >>> electrical field. >>> >>> - There is not a dual behavior of light. This "paradox" is caused by the >>> confusion >>> when light is analyzed entirely (Maxwell) or at its least expression >>> (Planck). >>> Top-down versus bottom-up appreciation of light. >>> >>> - But the point-like structure (the photon) has always been there since >>> 1865- >>> >>> >>> Absolute truth has been spoken. >> >> -- --