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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: Saturday Night =?UTF-8?B?U3VwcGVyPyAxMi8wNy8yMDI0?= Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:48:56 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <f8a3f93d92bcd3add5732c3d8e2d5f3a@www.novabbs.org> References: <2f62ceb6cf8c131d156d1537939cc743@www.novabbs.com> <lrmtu5Fbg3iU2@mid.individual.net> <vj74st$fmf6$1@dont-email.me> <vj76fv$ftve$1@dont-email.me> <f02a656b37463947808bff19642b4df1@www.novabbs.org> <67585d69$4$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <d732029898d062147660b9fe081fc80a@www.novabbs.org> <6759d544$0$981070$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vjd5rt$1ovol$1@dont-email.me> <902b08cb-fdf0-c95b-c7f5-09df356d891e@example.net> <68f28c0ce076810c249432ba6475c181@www.novabbs.org> <cd7debe6-52e4-9484-b526-da122f127607@example.net> <vjg5bu$32ahp$1@dont-email.me> <ed856093-2458-074d-f28c-50c015b66fa9@example.net> <73863da67b56626079d0004798abcac2@www.novabbs.org> <vji4gp$3i34v$28@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2753420"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="fvfMHpfyYaD/vlBz5lqYkjt6mNUTPbft/wBbWy6Ff1w"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: 3a41f635759bc15db100ab3d5cacd588ab964edd X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$ej/rbKQzqJBKczYvR7wUr.lypCabU0ntnoYcnEDHMHngI8k4EzLVi X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4578 Lines: 69 On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:13:12 +0000, clams casino wrote: > On 12/13/2024 12:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:00:06 +0000, D wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, Carol wrote: >>> >>>> D wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 10:21:59 +0000, D wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is fake crab/lobster? Is that some established thing in the >>>>>>> US? >>>>>> >>>>>> Imitation crab is made from white fish that's smashed into a paste, >>>>>> extruded or formed, and cooked. It's called kamaboko and has always >>>>>> been popular in Hawaii. It's used as a garnish for Saimin and as a >>>>>> party food. It wasn't popular on the mainland until kamaboko was >>>>>> made into fake crab form. In Japan, kamaboko is made into a >>>>>> dizzying number of forms. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYMc0d-dXEM >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oh, had no idea! Thank you for the information. For me, I think from >>>>> a marketing point of view, they should stick with kamaboko. I'd be >>>>> very hesitant buying something called fake crab. >>>> >>>> He's making things up again, D. Although there are simularities (both >>>> use white fish) that's where it ends. They don't look anything alike. >>>> They don't act alike when cooked and they don't share flavoring. You >>>> can see websites misnaming 'fake crab' as kamaboko but they are trying >>>> to popularize the fake stuff with an exotic name and that's all it is. >>> >>> Oh I see. Yes, that would certainly work on me. ;) Kamaboko, >>> interesting, >>> fake-crab, not so interesting. >> >> >> "Fake crab" is just my personal name for the product. I use it because >> it tickles my funny bone and also because that's what it is. The name >> that it's marketed and sold under is "Imitation Crab", which is also an >> entirely appropriate label. Sometimes the fish paste is used to make >> imitation scallops or imitation lobster. Before imitation crab came out, >> Americans did not eat kamaboko. Imitation crab opened ups a whole new >> market for kamaboko in the US. >> >> The kids these days like to call fish paste and the cooked product >> "surimi." I guess they like the term better than imitation crab or >> kamaboko. Da Hawaiians don't use that term. We like to call the food >> kamaboko, "imitation crab", or "fish cake." Some people like to call >> imitation crab "fake crab." That would be me. Complex? Yes it is. Such >> is the nature of words. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surimi > > Imagine, a local noun that has synonyms - shocking I say! > Bring on the coffee/java/mud/expresso/cappucino/etc... There's some cultural aspects to the word "surimi." It's a word that pretentious, hipster, mainlanders use. Well, that's what I reckon. When I was growing up, we said "shoyu" not "soy sauce." Saying "soy sauce" was considered to be putting on airs. Funny, eh? Such is the nature of words.