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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 01:50:02 +0000 Subject: Re: Alternative to Optical Storage???? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers References: <pan$c6999$ff62655a$6baa28da$29b62529@linux.rocks> <usndfjpf9lljrk7ejilvj0ohb0mv5du6tl@4ax.com> <vd6q9i$24lio$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> <vd7man$uh1c$1@dont-email.me> <vdas1u$1l9vg$1@dont-email.me> <vdb6il$1mt37$1@dont-email.me> <vdcd0m$1se5e$1@dont-email.me> <vdcg84$1srul$1@dont-email.me> <vde1s1$268qv$19@dont-email.me> <vdedah$2983a$1@dont-email.me> <DNWcnebxSdQkFWb7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvfpfe0.kgk.spamtrap42@one.localnet> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 21:50:01 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <slrnvfpfe0.kgk.spamtrap42@one.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <fB-dnVcXsOrXZWD7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 50 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-i2GFAc9k94NRrIdlZmuKLEyb9pp98USu5DNyQFH5JztEaZglZrNayeelo5CdEry8N3zijERjnNlsED4!yegxNMcCWygLV9yWMcuQMMjXQqmvifIqBsQKZepAzVEgvRggx42PqoHAgVU3h7Tr2u3xjg4QE51e!xb0dy+KNvaEJXi99Rp+V X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3633 On 10/1/24 11:28 PM, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2024-10-01, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >> ... >> What DOES last ... baked clay tablets. Still >> readable after 8000 years. You can read all >> about the hero Gilgamesh, note the accounting >> of taxes on wheat in Uruk :-) > > ... and, according to a discussion I read in some newsgroup, > they're goat-proof, unlike Papyrus. The lengthy discussion > was marvelous! It's kind of an important subject now - SO much data, important now, important a few years from now, some important historically - yet there are really NO good media to STORE it on. The best ones are also the lowest-density and/or going obsolete. So, for now, up-replicate plus "cloud". Note that Vlad's boyz MIGHT evaporate that cloud at any time alas .... The durability of those old baked-clay tablets though - extraordinary. They provide a broad window into what's likely the very first civ. The videotapes of the moon landings - can't be found. SOME think they were over-written with new stuff by idiots. Me, I think they're in a trunk in someone's attic. Thing is, they were typical mylar 'tape' with a mag coating which WILL start to flake off, esp if the attic is in Florida. The plastic isn't forever either. Finally, most everything to do with the early space program was proprietary - often very literally one-off - with no standardized or even decently-documented formats. Hell, we've never even really SEEN the moon landing because there was no way to adapt the proprietary HD video to anything the media could use - our view was of the news camera pointed at a long-persistence B&W console monitor. Can WE make the better 'clay tablet' ? A fused silica or aluminum oxide disk or page laser- pitted somewhere inside (with semi-glyphic instructions on each) ??? 10,000 years is a worthy goal.