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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The HOAX of GR effects in GPS and other artificial satellites, Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:06:56 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <fc050a2306087aecdc8f3a65f1d229d9@www.novabbs.com> References: <55dd6d7aedf3d92af90dfb33b2854ef5@www.novabbs.com> <vc6jvs$25nup$2@dont-email.me> <fc245bccd6e64b7e3a4124ab658f1e16@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2525843"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="p+/k+WRPC4XqxRx3JUZcWF5fRnK/u/hzv6aL21GRPZM"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$mFivlsdqkOrbSpilYTtTTu7490/RulsDaTFe83VLvCWfx386nXCBm X-Rslight-Posting-User: 47dad9ee83da8658a9a980eb24d2d25075d9b155 Bytes: 2401 Lines: 21 On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 3:56:44 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote: > > Two paragraphs that I wrote for Wikipedia which are nearly unchanged > from when I first wrote them a decade ago: > "Proposals that may lead to a quantum theory of gravity such as string > theory and loop quantum gravity predict violations of the weak > equivalence principle because they contain many light scalar fields > with long Compton wavelengths, which should generate fifth forces and > variation of the fundamental constants. Heuristic arguments suggest > that the magnitude of these equivalence principle violations could be > in the 10−13 to 10−18 range. > "Currently envisioned tests of the weak equivalence principle are > approaching a degree of sensitivity such that non-discovery of a > violation would be just as profound a result as discovery of a > violation. Non-discovery of equivalence principle violation in this > range would suggest that gravity is so fundamentally different from > other forces as to require a major reevaluation of current attempts to > unify gravity with the other forces of nature. A positive detection, > on the other hand, would provide a major guidepost towards unification." Well, it looks like 10^-13 to 10^-14 predictions are in very great doubt. Do you know which theories are predicting violations this big?